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Can anyone please help me find details about James Randall.. born in 1879 in Docklands, South London.. and died around 1969. He is the father of George W Randall. And also James's wife Ellen Randall (nee Glover) born in 1880.
Many thanks
Kirsty Fiona

when did James marry? are you sure where he was born? I'm sure Docklands is not in south London


jax

No marriage of Ellen Glover to James Randall on free bmd.

When was George W born?

Good thinking Jax, but she did say Ellen Glover was born 1880.

Hi
Jax.... thats them... i must have got all confused with names as there is so many georges, james and william's in their family. It was my aunt who say he was born in Docklands.. but she is 73 now so probably her memory going a bit.
Many thanks for this.. this means my grandad.. George W Randall was born in 1907.

can we start again then?

George W Randall is James son? when did James marry and to whom? and where please

jax

My father James william randall was born in Pontardawe in 1933.. his father George W Randall.. was born in 1907 in Surrey. George's father was James Randall.. born in 1879, he married Ellen nee Glover who according to my aunt was born in 1880 in Eastbourne, but i believe was in Norwood.
Actually i have just relooked at the info you sent and i dont think it is them.. surrey seems to be the place that sticks out so far.

They also had a daughter Nellie who possibly was called Ellen like her mother, she was born in 1908. Also another son John born in 1905.
I have them all as born in Surrey.
Its all a maze to me right now. Sorry for the confusion.
Kirsty

ok think Im on the right track now

1911 census - household transcription
Person: RANDALL, George
Address: 61 Addington Road W Croydon

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RANDALL, James Head Married M 32 1879 Iron Founder Surrey Croydon VIEW
RANDALL, Nellie Wife Married
7 years F 31 1880 Surrey Norwood VIEW
RANDALL, John Son M 6 1905 Surrey Croydon VIEW
RANDALL, George Son M 4 1907 Surrey Croydon VIEW
RANDALL, Nellie Daughter F 3 1908 Surrey Croydon VIEW

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Marriages Dec 1903 (>99%)
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Glover Nellie Phoebe Epsom 2a 49
Randall James John Epsom 2a 49

Name: James Randall
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Croydon, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Croydon
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address: 66 Myrtle St East Private
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Croydon
Sub-registration district: Croydon
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Randall 50
Jane Randall 40
Walter Gower 14
Amy Randall 9
Ada Randall 6
Fanny Randall 4
James Randall 2
Henry Randall


1901

Name: James Randall
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Croydon, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Croydon
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Croydon
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Croydon
Sub-registration district: Croydon
ED, institution, or vessel: 46
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 325
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Randall 62
Alice Randall 25
Fanny Randall 24
James Randall 22
Harry Randall 20
Clara Randall 19


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And several more births --

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

Kirsty, just search for

births
surname RANDALL
mother's surname GLOVER

and then you'll be an expert.

not sure about this marriage

Marriages Dec 1865 (>99%)
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Culmer Jane Susan Eastry 2a 1491
Randall John Eastry 2a 1491

There is a 1911 census with Jane on and she had said she had been married 45 years even though she was widowed so the date is about right if you had james birth cert that would give her maiden name

Hi
Jax, your a gem.. this is what i was looking for... many many thanks.
my aunt called her ellen but others called her nellie.. and with her having a daughter nellie got me confused.
Another thing is this... am looking for my grandmothers family.. her name was Louie May Lobb.. born in 1906.. swansea.. her father was William Lobb born in 1873 and her mother Annie Ekstrom around same time i suppose.. they were married in 1904 in swansea. I know Annie's father was from sweden. Any details about this side of the family would mean a lot. Many thanks
Kirsty

I'm not seeing them on the 1911 although I found Louie's birth so we know thats right but will keep looking maybe transcribed wrong

jax

This is interesting

Marriages Mar 1904 (>99%)
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Ekstrom Annie Swansea 11a 1168a
Lobb William James Swansea 11a 1168a
ROBERTS William J Swansea 11a 1168A



1911 census - household transcription
Person: ROBERTS, Louie May
Address: Clydach Road Ynystawe

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ROBERTS, William J Head Married M 27 1884 Colliery Labourer Above Ground Glamorgan Swansea VIEW
ROBERTS, Annie E Wife Married
7 years F 28 1883 Glamorgan Cardiff VIEW
ROBERTS, Edith Violet Daughter F 6 1905 Glamorgan Swansea VIEW
ROBERTS, Louie May Daughter F 7 1904 School Glamorgan Swansea VIEW
ROBERTS, William J Son M 2 1909 Glamorgan Swansea VIEW

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This is the right family all the children were born Lobb you can check yourself on freebmd as Janey said plus also look for the Randall/Glover children after 1911

few more children

Births Jun 1912 (>99%)
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Lobb James H Ekstrom Swansea 11a 2227

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Births Mar 1914 (>99%)
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LOBB Sarah G E Ekstrom Swansea 11a 2359

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Births Sep 1916 (>99%)
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Lobb David J E Ekstrom Swansea 11a 2046

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Births Mar 1919 (>99%)
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Lobb Eunice E Ekstrom Swansea 11a 1750

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Births Sep 1921 (>99%)
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LOBB Annie Ekstrom Swansea 11a 2281

this is where the Roberts comes in

Name: William J Lobb
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John E Roberts
Mother's Name: Isabella Roberts
Gender: Male
Where born: Clydach, Glamorgan, Wales

Civil parish: Rhyndwyclydach
Ecclesiastical parish: Clydach St Johns
Town: Clydach
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Pontardawe
Sub-registration district: Pontardawe
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John E Roberts 28 >>>coal discharger
Isabella Roberts 28
William J Lobb 9
John E Roberts 6
Grace E Roberts 3
Mary A Roberts 1
William A Roberts 20
Francis Beer Tapp 22
Robert Batter Bird 18
Walter Hight 17
William Macquire 18


Marriages Sep 1884 (>99%)
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Lobb Elizabella Pontardawe 11a 895
Roberts John Pontardawe 11a 895



So william was born before his parents married so he used both names


All the other people were boarders couple of them looked like they made their names up lol

1901

I wonder if this is Annie?

Name: Annie Ekstron
Age in 1901: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relation: Stepdaughter
Mother's Name: Mary Matthews
Gender: Female
Where born: Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales

Civil parish: Swansea
Ecclesiastical parish: Llangyfelach
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Swansea
Sub-registration district: Llangafelach
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 83
Household Members: Name Age
John Matthews 45
Mary Matthews 40
Howell Matthews 17
John Matthews 13
David Matthews 8
Sarah Matthews 5
Annie Ekstron 19
Jennie Ekstron 17



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Hi Jax
My god, you have been busy. Many thanks for this information. My aunt mentioned that some of the Lobb children had their name changed to Roberts but couldnt understand why... this is great. So the roberts come in when Annie remarried??
This gives me more leads to follow.. if i get stuck be sure i will be back to ask jax :) again many thanks for everything you found for me.
Regards
Kirsty