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10 Mar 2010 20:12 |
My Father has told me that Mabel was born in Wells next to the Sea Norfolk the nearest I've got to is Tivetshall St Mary just out side of Norwich. Mabel is My Great Grandmother, Grandmother to my Father. He said that her family worked for Queen Victoria at the Sandringham Estate. I do not know when she was born, She married a William Manser who was a Gunsmith. My parents have a piece of his work in Gunmetal.. They had three children, Hilda my Grandmother b1908, Vera, Ronald and Lily, who was living in Lowestoft upuntil 5 years ago.
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BatMansDaughter
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10 Mar 2010 20:22 |
Hi
looks like their marriage;
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Sep 1904 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bunting Mabel Anna W. Ham 4a 27
Manser William George W. Ham 4a 27
1911 census shows;
HOUSEHOLD MANSER HILDA F 1908 3 West Ham Essex HOUSEHOLD MANSER MABEL ANNA F 1885 26 West Ham Essex HOUSEHOLD MANSER STANLEY WILLIAM M 1906 5 West Ham Essex HOUSEHOLD MANSER WILLIAM GEORGE M 1882 29 West Ham Essex
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BatMansDaughter
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10 Mar 2010 20:23 |
Looks like her;
1901 England Census about Mabel Bunting Name: Mabel Bunting Age: 16 Estimated birth year: abt 1885 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Thomas Mother's Name: Eliza Gender: Female Where born: West Ham, Essex, England Civil parish: West Ham Ecclesiastical parish: St Gabriel County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: West Ham Sub-registration district: Plaistow ED, institution, or vessel: 56 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 2 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Bunting 47 Eliza Bunting 45 Mabel Bunting 16 Robert Bunting 8 Gladys Bunting 5 Thomas Bunting 4 Dee x
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BatMansDaughter
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10 Mar 2010 20:34 |
I see that Thomas and Eliza, her parents were born in Wells.... at the moment I haven't found the 1891 census with them on it.
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BatMansDaughter
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10 Mar 2010 20:39 |
Now this is the right family however the 2 households have run into 1 and the Bunting family have become the Marrells, the original image shows Bunting though;
1891 England Census about Mabel Anne Marrell Name: Mabel Anne Marrell Age: 6 Estimated birth year: abt 1885 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Harry Robert Gender: Female Where born: West Ham, Essex, England Civil parish: West Ham Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Town: West Ham County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
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Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: West Ham Sub-registration district: West Ham ED, institution, or vessel: 66 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Harry Robert Marrell 22 Florence Marrell 22 Hervey John Marrell 1
BUNTING family Eliza Marrell 34 >>>>> Born Wells Mildred Marrell 10 born Wells Mabel Anne Marrell 6 Gladys Marrell 6/12
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BatMansDaughter
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10 Mar 2010 20:41 |
1881 England Census about Mildred Bunting Name: Mildred Bunting Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Eliza Gender: Female Where born: Wells, Norfolk, England Civil parish: West Ham County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address: 62 Keogh Road Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: West Ham Sub-registration district: Stratford ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Eliza Bunting 24 Mildred Bunting
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Spike
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11 Mar 2010 08:05 |
Hi Dee, I was just wondering if Eliza had been married before becoming a Bunting? Have never heard of the name Marrell this is very interesting. This one is going to flummox my Dad. Thanks for the help.
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Penny
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11 Mar 2010 08:32 |
Marrell was the next door neighbours/shared the same dwelling , probably not related at all.
all that has happened is someone forgot to put a / in when transcribing
john brown nellie brown / john smith helen smith
=two families
without the / they would all probably be recorded as brown
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BatMansDaughter
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11 Mar 2010 08:38 |
Hi Spike,
Like Minnie has said Eliza wasn't married before just a mix up on the 1891 census and the Bunting name was misinterpretated to Marrell, but looking at the original census return the name is definately Bunting.
I'll see if I can pinpoint a marrige for Thomas Bunting and Eliza. There was a problem on Genes last night and it was very difficult to post the information.
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BatMansDaughter
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11 Mar 2010 08:51 |
I think this is Mildreds' birth registration, however the surname has been slightly misspelt;
Births Dec 1880 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BANTING Mildred Sally Walsingham 4b 300
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BatMansDaughter
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11 Mar 2010 08:57 |
Tracing Thomas Bunting back his mothers maiden name was Jarrett and it was added as a middle name for Thomas;
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Jun 1879 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BUNTING Thomas Jarrett Poplar 1c 997 Mountain Chapman Henry Poplar 1c 997 Mountain Charles Henry Poplar 1c 997 Rudge Emily Poplar 1c 997 Stone Eliza Poplar 1c 997
This is quite handy;
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Eliza Stone Name: Eliza Stone Spouse Name: Thomas Jarrett Bunting >>> occupation, Mariner Spouse Age: Full Age Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 2 Jun 1879 Parish: St Mary, Bromley St Leonard County: Middlesex Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: Robert Stone >>> Occupation, Mariner Spouse Father Name: Thomas Bunting >> Occupation, Master Mariner
Both living in Bromley
Witnesses;Ernest Arthur Bowers and Thomas ??????
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Janet
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11 Mar 2010 09:00 |
There is an image for this birth on here
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=waypoint;s=waypointsOnly;c=1416598;w=0
DOB 05/10/1880 Date of baptism 07/11/1880 address at time of baptism 62 Kew Road Stratford Middx (which ties in with the West Ham connection) father's occupation mariner
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BatMansDaughter
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11 Mar 2010 09:01 |
1861 England Census about Thomas Bunting Name: Thomas Bunting Age: 6 Estimated birth year: abt 1855 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Elizebeth Phe Gender: Male Where born: Wells, Norfolk, England Civil parish: Wells County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Walsingham Sub-registration district: Wells ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 98 Household Members: Name Age Elizebeth Phe Bunting 32 Georg Thos Bunting 8 Thomas Bunting 6 Clara Elizebh Bunting 2 Edward Bunting 1
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1852 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bunting Thomas Walsingham 4b 569 Jarrett Elizabeth Walsingham 4b 569
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BatMansDaughter
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11 Mar 2010 09:03 |
1851 England Census about Elizabeth Jarrett Name: Elizabeth Jarrett Age: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1829 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Holkham, Norfolk, England Civil parish: Wells Next The Sea County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Street Address:
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Disability: View image Registration district: Walsingham Sub-registration district: Fakenham ED, institution, or vessel: 10c Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 66 Household Members: Name Age James Chapman 49 Jemima Chapman 46 James Chapman 21 Kate Chapman 18 Martha Chapman 14 Mary Chapman 12 Rose Chapman 10 Ellen Chapman 8 David Chapman 5 Ann Chapman 4 Elizabeth Jarrett 22 Harriet Jarrett 19 Clarissa West 21 Dee x
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BatMansDaughter
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11 Mar 2010 09:04 |
1841 England Census about Elizth Jarrett Name: Elizth Jarrett Age: 13 Estimated birth year: abt 1828 Gender: Female Where born: Norfolk, England Civil parish: Holkham Hundred: North Greenhoe County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Walsingham Sub-registration district: Wells Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Jarrett 45 Mary Jarrett 44 Willm Jarrett 16 Robert Jarrett 14 Elizth Jarrett 13 Susanna Jarrett 10 Harriet Jarrett 9 George Jarrett 5 Dee x
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BatMansDaughter
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11 Mar 2010 09:05 |
Most probably Thomas Bunting who was Thomas Jarrett Buntings father;
1861 England Census about Thomas Bunting Name: Thomas Bunting Age: 34 Estimated birth year: abt 1827 Relation: Master Gender: Male Where born: Wells, Norfolk, England Civil parish: Vessels Town: Yarmouth Roads County/Island: Misc Ships At Sea or Abroad Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Misc Ships Sub-registration district: Misc Ships ED, institution, or vessel: Norfolk Tar Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Bunting 34 Thomas Staskings 35 Samuel Harvey 33 Thomas Skeet 22 Henry Salcomb 19 Dee x
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Janet
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11 Mar 2010 09:06 |
Marriage banns records for the marriage that Dee posted
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=waypoint;s=waypointsOnly;c=1416598;w=0
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BatMansDaughter
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11 Mar 2010 09:07 |
In 1861 Elizabeth Phoebe Bunting (nee Jarrett) had a son Edward who was 1 years old, so this maybe his father with his parents???
1841 England Census about Thomas Bunting Name: Thomas Bunting Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1831 Gender: Male Where born: Norfolk, England Civil parish: Wells Next The Sea Hundred: North Greenhoe County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Walsingham Sub-registration district: Wells Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Edward Bunting 50 Ann Bunting 50 Maria Bunting 20 Mary Bunting 12 Thomas Bunting 10 Robert Bunting 8 Dee x
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Janet
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11 Mar 2010 09:10 |
and copy of marriage entry in church records here
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=waypoint;s=waypointsOnly;c=1416598;w=0
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BatMansDaughter
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11 Mar 2010 09:11 |
Now Eliza Stone who married Thomas Jarrett Bunting is causing a problem, she states her father was Thomas Stone a mariner, but I wonder if she made him up??
1861 England Census about Eliza Stone Name: Eliza Stone Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Relation: Lodger Gender: Female Where born: Wells, Norfolk, England Civil parish: Wells County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Walsingham Sub-registration district: Wells ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 145 Household Members: Name Age John Gibbs 28 Sarah Gibbs 28 Jas Gibbs 5 George Gibbs 3 Julia Gibbs 1 Sarah Stone 24 Born Stiffkey, Norfolk and she is Unmarried Eliza Stone 4 Dee x
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