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Hi everybody,,
Im new to these boards, but I really hope someone can help!
Im looking for info on my G Gran Marion T Moyse and her husband/parents.
Info I have on marion, DOB 1891, married wallace cudlipp 1915, son francis roy DOD 1970. there seems to be very little records for marian, I have her marriage cert which is how i got DOB, other than that I seem to be running in circles, i cant find a solid piece of info on her anywhere!! I have been told that she possably went by the name of Teresa (Middle Name). and there is also a family story that she had another son other than francis, whom was never spoken about, possible other marriage? or illigitament son??

I really really hope some one can help!

Thanks in advance

Simon

Just for info

Marriages Mar 1915 (>99%)
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Beadle Minnie V Butler Plymouth 5b 550
Butler John W Beadle Plymouth 5b 550
Cudlipp Wallace Moyse Plymouth 5b 550
Moyse Marian T Cudlipp Plymouth 5b 550


Is she single when she married in 1915?

Name and occupation of her father from the marriage cert would be useful

wow,, thanks for the quick reply!!

father is listed as deceased on marriage cert, and marian listed as a spinster?
Im sooo stuck!! lol

Si

Also just for info
Name: Marian Teresa Cudlipp
Birth Date: 11 Mar 1891
Death Registration Month/Year: 1970
Registration district: Plymouth
Inferred County: Devonshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 1582

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1911:
THOMLINSON, William F Head Married M 51 1860 Assistant Store House Man Devonport Devon
THOMLINSON, Elizabeth Wife Married 2 years F 49 1862 Tavistock Devon
MOYSE, Theresa Stepdaughter Single F 20 1891 St Anns Chapel Cornwall
RG number: RG14 Piece: 13045 Reference: RG14PN13045 RG78PN752 RD278 SD2 ED18 SN711
Registration District: Devonport Sub District: Stoke Enumeration District:
18 Parish: Devonport
Address: 97 Hotham Place Devonport County: Devonshire

Sorry, father was william henry moyse.

1911 poss

THOMLINSON, William F Head Married M 51 1860 Assistant Store House Man Devonport Devon VIEW
THOMLINSON, Elizabeth Wife Married
2 years F 49 1862 Tavistock Devon VIEW
MOYSE, Theresa Stepdaughter Single F 20 1891 St Anns Chapel Cornwall VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
13045 Reference:
RG14PN13045 RG78PN752 RD278 SD2 ED18 SN711

Registration District:
Devonport Sub District:
Stoke Enumeration District:
18 Parish:
Devonport

Address:
97 Hotham Place Devonport

wow u guys are fast!! i cant believe it!

I have seen the thomlinson link before,, but can find nothing before that, 1901 census etc,, i dont know weather it is just me,, but i cant fathom a concrete timeline for her from birth.

Si

??

Marriages Sep 1909 (>99%)
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BAKER William Devonport 5b 636
MOYSE Elizabeth Devonport 5b 636
STADDON Lilian Mary C Devonport 5b 636
THOMLINSON William Francis Devonport 5b 636

sep 1909?? i dont think i have come across thise before,, any other info?

1901??

MOYSE, Harry Head Married M 31 1870 Cooper
Calstock
Cornwall
MOYSE, Elizabeth Wife Married F 33 1868
Treehill
Devonshire
MOYSE, Teresa A Step Daughter F 10 1891
Calstock
Cornwall

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
2115 Folio:
162 Page:
12

Registration District:
Tavistock Sub District:
Calstock Enumeration District:
9 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Calstock St Andrews

Civil Parish:
Calstock (Cornwall) Municipal Borough:
Address:
Chilsworthy, Calstock (Cornwall), Chilsworthy County:
Devonshire

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1901 England Census
Teresa A Moyle Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1891 Relation: Stepdaughter Mother's name: Elizabeth Moyle Gender: Female Where born: Calstock, Cornwall, England Civil Parish: Calstock Ecclesiastical parish: Calstock St Andrew Town: Willsworthy County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England Registration district: Tavistock
Sub-registration district: Calstock ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 72

Harry Moyle 31 cooper Cornwall
Elizabeth Moyle 33
Teresa A Moyle 10

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2115; Folio: 162; Page: 12.

St Anns Chapel is within Calstock area

Have never come across the Moyle variant,
I think my head may just POP!! other lines of the family have been easy to follow,, but Marion seems to have beaten my brain!!!

Si

Clutching at straws now

Births Jun 1891
Allen Miriam Tresa Tavistock 5b 365

1891??
Name: Elizabeth Allen
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Tavistock, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Stoke Damerel
Ecclesiastical parish: Stoke Damerel
Town: Devonport
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Stoke Damerel
Sub-registration district: Stoke Damerel
ED, institution, or vessel: 6




Marriages Mar 1900 (>99%)
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Allen Elizabeth Ann Devonport 5b 503
Candy Bessie Amelia Devonport 5b 503
Honey Alfred John H Devonport 5b 503
Moyse Henry Buzzo Devonport 5b 503



Probably totally wrong but nothing else to suggest at the moment but does not match with name of father on marriage cert !!

There is this baptism in Calstock which is interesting...

Parish: Calstock
Date: 15-May 1891
Name: Marion Theresa ALLEN
Sex: dau
Father: William
Mother: Elizabeth
Residence: S Annes Chapel
Father's rank/profession: miner
Register notes: All Saints Harrowbarrow, born 11? Mar 1891

thanks GB
worth a look im sure!!,, where can i find this info??

cheers
Si

???
Marriages Mar 1900
xxx Allen Elizabeth Ann Devonport 5b 503
Candy Bessie Amelia Devonport 5b 503
Honey Alfred John H Devonport 5b 503
xxx Moyse Henry Buzzo Devonport 5b 503

BUZZO ?

Snap, Buzzo deserves investigating

It looks like Elizabeth had several marriages...

Marriages Mar 1900
Allen Elizabeth Ann Devonport 5b 503
Moyse Henry Buzzo Devonport 5b 503

Let me run this past you.

Just a theory.....


Marriages Mar 1900 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>>>>>>>>>>>Allen Elizabeth Ann Devonport 5b 503
Candy Bessie Amelia Devonport 5b 503
Honey Alfred John H Devonport 5b 503
>>>>>>>>>>>Moyse Henry Buzzo Devonport 5b 503

Married after Marian Teresa was born.


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Household:1881

George FURSE Head M Male 50 Bude, Cornwall, England Shoemaker
Maria FURSE Wife M Female 41 Camborne, Cornwall, England Wife
Emily MITCHELL Cousin U Female 27 Camborne, Cornwall, England
John LUXMORE Boarder U Male 20 Tavistock, Devon, England Mason
John POMEROY Boarder U Male 24 North Hill, Cornwall, England Blacksmith
Joseph GORSE Boarder U Male 23 Grampound, Cornwall, England Ships Stoker Seaman
Richd. GRANVILLE Boarder U Male 20 Grampound, Cornwall, England Railway Porter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Harry MOYSE Boarder U Male 21 North Hill, Cornwall, England Blacksmith

:
Dwelling 46 Marlboro St
Census Place Stoke Damerel, Devon, England

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If Marian was Elizabeth's child before she wed she would be registered as Allen.

Maybe not Marian, but Miriam ??????????


Births Jun 1891
Allen Miriam Tresa - Tavistock 5b 365
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EDIT :
Looks like I type too slowly.
We all seem to have had the same idea.

The baptism is transcribed as Marion Teresa and lists her father as William so there have been a previous marriage.

from http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org

Katie