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Jamwar

Jamwar Report 6 May 2010 10:42

Can anyone help me find Mary Morgan nee James? dob C1834. According to old family letters she married Edward Morgan & was living in 'Garndiffath' in 1871. Parents William James & Catherine Lewis.I cannot find her on any census after 1841 when she is with her parents in Crickhowell. Place of birth not given but presumably somewhere near there. She & Edward had a son Daniel, dau Elizabeth. (2 sons & 3 dau's surviving in 1871). also her sister Leah who married Anthony Lloyd about 1869 & had a dau Anne, dob ?15/8/1870. With many thanks..

Gee

Gee Report 6 May 2010 10:48

Marriages Jun 1850 (>99%)
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BARNES John Crickhowell 26 574
HOWELLS Ann Crickhowell 26 574
HOWELLS Thomas Crickhowell 26 574
JAMES Mary Crickhowell 26 574
James William Crickhowell 26 574
Morgan Edward Crickhowell 26 574
Morgan Mary Ann Crickhowell 26 574
Rogers Mary Crickhowell 26 574



So she should be under her married name from 51 onwards

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Gee

Gee Report 6 May 2010 10:49

1851 Wales Census
about Mary Morgan
Name: Mary Morgan
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1833
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Edward
Gender: Female
Where born: Llangattock, Breconshire, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: Aberystruth
Ecclesiastical parish: Beaufort
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Abergavenny
Sub-registration district: Blaenavon
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Household schedule number: 27
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Morgan 23 <<<Coal miner
Mary Morgan 18

Jamwar

Jamwar Report 6 May 2010 11:08

Dear God Ginny, how do you do that? I have been searching for hrs! Looked '51, '61, '71. Must be blind.
Many, many thanks!!

Jamwar

Jamwar Report 6 May 2010 11:38

actually Ginny, I just took another look @ 1861 census & lo & behold there they are. But it's not the one you have above but in Garndiffath, district pontypool with dau's Leah, Rachael & son Daniel! Fab, feel V clever but yr great help...thanks again.

Jamwar

Jamwar Report 6 May 2010 11:39

haven't found them on 1871 yet.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 6 May 2010 11:45

These Ginny I think. ~~~~~

1861

MORGAN, Edward Head Married M 34 1827 Collier
Victoria
Monmouthshire
MORGAN, Mary Wife Married F 28 1833
Beaufort
Monmouthshire
MORGAN, Leah Daughter Unmarried F 7 1854 Scholar
Beaufort
Monmouthshire
MORGAN, Rachael Daughter Unmarried F 3 1858 Scholar
Beaufort
Monmouthshire
MORGAN, Daniel Son Unmarried M 1 1860
Trevethin
Monmouthshire
RG number:
RG09 Piece:
4009 Folio:
8 Page:
15

Registration District:
Pontypool Sub District:
1 Pontypool Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Abersychan

Civil Parish:
Trevethin Municipal Borough:
Address:
Garndiffath, Trevethin County:
Monmouthshire

Gee

Gee Report 6 May 2010 11:46

1881 Wales Census
about Mary Morgan
Name: Mary Morgan
Age: 47
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Edward
Gender: Female
Where born: Llansoy, Monmouth, Wales

Civil parish: Trevethin
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: Blaen Ffrwd 6 Balance Pit Houses
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education: View image
Employment status: View image

Registration district: Pontypool
Sub-registration district: Pontypool
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Morgan 53
Mary Morgan 47
Joseph Morgan 25
Rachael Morgan 23
Daniel Morgan 21
Owen Morgan 12
Edward Morgan 9
William Henry Morgan 6
John Morgan 6
Catherine Morgan 3


If you can confirm the other family are not the right ones I'll delete them to stop confusion

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 6 May 2010 11:47

1871

MORGAN, Edward Head M 44 1827 Monmouthshire
MORGAN, Mary Wife F 38 1833 Monmouthshire VIEW
MORGAN, Leah Daughter F 17 1854 Monmouthshire
MORGAN, Joseph Son M 16 1855 Monmouthshire
MORGAN, Rachael Daughter F 14 1857 Monmouthshire
MORGAN, Daniel Son M 11 1860 Monmouthshire VIEW
MORGAN, Gwenthlean Daughter F 2 1869 VIEW
RG number:
RG10 Piece:
5335 Folio:
19 Page:
33

Registration District:
Pontypool Sub District:
Pontypool Enumeration District:
22 Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Trevethin Municipal Borough:
Address:
Public House, Trevethin County:
Monmouthshire

Jamwar

Jamwar Report 6 May 2010 11:51

Yes Fannybygaslight, I am pretty sure these are the right ones. The childrens names all add up as do the places of birth. The 1851 result from Ginny looks right. Beaufort is where the family came from. Thanks again to you both.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 6 May 2010 11:54

When and where was Leah born?

Marriages Sep 1869
JAMES Leah Pontypool 11a 168
LLOYD Anthony Pontypool 11a 168

Gee

Gee Report 6 May 2010 11:57

1891 Wales Census
about William Morgan
Name: William Morgan
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Mary <<<Widow
Gender: Male
Where born: Varteg, Monmouthshire, Wales

Civil parish: Trevethin
Ecclesiastical parish: Abersychan
Town: Talywain
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Pontypool
Sub-registration district: Pontypool
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Morgan 58
William Morgan 16
John Morgan 16
Cassie Morgan 13


FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 6 May 2010 12:00

1881

LLOYDD, Anthony Head Married M 39 1842 Coal Miner
Trevethin
Monmouthshire
LLOYDD, Leah Wife Married F 29 1852
Beaufort
Brecknockshire
Wales
LLOYDD, Annie Daughter Single F 10 1871 Scholar
Trevethin
Monmouthshire
LLOYDD, Catherine Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar
Trevethin
Monmouthshire
LLOYDD, William Son Single M 4 1877 Scholar
Trevethin
Monmouthshire
LLOYDD, Charles Son Single M 1 1880
Trevethin
Monmouthshire
RG number:
RG11 Piece:
5252 Folio:
129 Page:
26

Registration District:
Pontypool Sub District:
Pontypool Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Trevethin with Pontypool Municipal Borough:
Address:
Thomas Row, Trevethin With Pontypool County:
Monmouthshire

Gee

Gee Report 6 May 2010 12:01

Births Dec 1853 (>99%)
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MORGAN Leah Crickhowell 11b 112
MORGAN Leah Pontypool 11a 94

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Is one of these her birth? Fans you have Leah marrying as a James?

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Gee

Gee Report 6 May 2010 12:07

Deaths Jun 1889 (>99%)
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Morgan Edward 61 Pontypool 11a 87

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FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 6 May 2010 12:07

1871

Father William James is with them and it is the same family as on 1881 but for some reason Anthony is down as Benjamin?On original it is that too and he is a collier.

LLOYDD, Benjamin Head M 29 1842 Monmouthshire
LLOYDD, Leah Wife F 23 1848 Monmouthshire
LLOYDD, Anne Daughter F 0 1871 Monmouthshire
JAMES, William Father-In-Law M 50 1821 Monmouthshire
RG number:
RG10 Piece:
5335 Folio:
18 Page:
32

Registration District:
Pontypool Sub District:
Pontypool Enumeration District:
22 Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Trevethin Municipal Borough:
Address:
Public House, Trevethin County:
Monmouthshire

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 6 May 2010 12:09

Of COURSE I do Ginny.it was her maiden name.

Mary James married Edward Morgan !!

Gee

Gee Report 6 May 2010 12:09

Wasnt Leah's father Edward?

Hang on Fans...Leah is the daughter of Mary and Edward. William was Mary's father

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FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 6 May 2010 12:11

Nope.

Leah in OP was Mary James sister....Father William James as per 1871 with her.

But Mary and Edward Morgan DID have a daughter Leah who could not have possibly married Anthony Lloyd in 1869.

1891
LLOYD, Anthony Head Married M 50 1841 Coal Miner
Varteg
Monmouthshire
LLOYD, Leah Wife Married F 41 1850
Beaufort
Monmouthshire
LLOYD, William Son Single M 14 1877 Coal Miner
Blaenavon
Monmouthshire
LLOYD, John Son Single M 9 1882
Varteg
Monmouthshire
LLOYD, Rowland Son Single M 6 1885
Blaenavon
Monmouthshire
LLOYD, William Boarder Single M 30 1861 Coal Miner
Blaenavon
Monmouthshire
RG number:
RG12 Piece:
4349 Folio:
56 Page:
8

Registration District:
Abergavenny Sub District:
Blaenavon Enumeration District:
5 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Blaenavon

Civil Parish:
Llanover Municipal Borough:
Address:
44, James Street, Llanover, Blaenavon County:
Monmouthshire

Gee

Gee Report 6 May 2010 12:14

So were there 2 Leah's then caus the 61 you posted has a Leah down as daughter?

Edit; Yep there had to be 2 Leah's

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