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Difficult placing Lilian

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Lillian Rose Bennett
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 4 May 1922
Christening Place: Yatesbury, Wiltshire, England
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map:
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Mother: Mary Beatrice Bennett


Birth

Births Mar 1920
Bennett Lilian R Bennett Calne 5a 173

The child William, of Lillian and William Berg, is the original poster of this thread, going by his middle initials.

The brother James was born three years after William Berg senior's death.


Births Mar 1945 (>99%)
Berg James M Bennett Swindon 5a 40

Mr James Berg
in the England and Wales, Death Index, 1989-2019
Name: Mr James Berg
Gender: Male
Age: 65
Birth Date: 7 Jan 1945
Last Residence: Swindon, Wiltshire, England
Postal Code District: Sn2
Death Date: 14 Mar 2010


BERG, JAMES MARLOW 1945
GRO Reference: DOR Q1/2010 in SWINDON (7961B) Reg 1B006 Entry Number 502928765

He doesn't appear to have married.


William junior said his mother Lillian died when he was 12, which ought to make it c1953.

??

Lilian R Claridge
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Lilian R Claridge
Death Age: 35
Birth Date: abt 1920
Registration Date: Jan 1955[Feb 1955] [Mar 1955]
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Henley
Inferred County: Oxfordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 1113



CLARIDGE, LILIAN ROSE 35
GRO Reference: 1955 M Quarter in HENLEY Volume 06B Page 1113


Confirming the birth Shirley posted above:

BENNETT, LILIAN ROSE -
GRO Reference: 1920 M Quarter in CALNE Volume 05A Page 173

Probably her second husband's death:

Oliver John C Claridge
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Oliver John C Claridge
Death Age: 82
Birth Date: 26 May 1914
Registration Date: Aug 1996
Registration District: Gloucester
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Register Number: B47
District and Subdistrict: 4831B
Entry Number: 264

Lilian's mother's marriage ? - going by the christening posted by Shirley:

Marriages Sep 1928 (>99%)
BENNETT Mary B STRANGE Calne 5a 194
Strange William Bennett Calne 5a 194


???

Mary B Strange
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Mary B Strange
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 21 Jan 1896
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 3 High Street
Residence Place: Highworth, Wiltshire, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Line Number: 7
Schedule Number: 291
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: WSJT
Borough: Highworth
Registration district: 240-1
Inferred Spouse:
William E Strange
Household Members Age
William E Strange 51
Mary B Strange 43


Deaths Mar 1975 (>99%)
Strange Mary Beatrice 21Ja1896 Swindon 23 2273

Can't see her birth definitely, though.


Maybe this one ??

BENNETT, BEATRICE MARY mmn DIX
GRO Reference: 1896 M Quarter in FARINGDON Volume 02C Page 272

Thought original poster would have not been on here but only just found this. Yes allt hat info is correct we are just trying to track down her father's side as don't have much info. Yes her brother is William altho goes by George and James is deceased. As she was brought up in children's home she doesn't have alot apart from one photo and a certificate of where his war grave is. Was just hoping someone would know something. We've got as far as the Townsend's which is stated already. Thanks for your help.

Thanks, Katy.
Now we know specifically what you're looking for - William Berg's side of the family.

To summarise what the helpers in 2009 found - and which you say you know already:

William Henry Berg 1891-1942, husband of Lilian Rose Bennett.
His parents: William Henry Berg & Minnie J Townsend 1895-.

Minnie's parents: Pollie/Polly Leigh c1868 - and John George Townsend c1866

Pollie's parents: Thomas Leigh (c1843 Manchester) & Jane Roberts (c1843 Wales), married Swansea 1862.

That's only what was already found on this thread.
I haven't investigated further yet.
Lots of gaps in above to be filled in, as well as trying to go further back.

Minnie Jane and William Henry in 1925:

William Henry Berg
in the Swansea and Surrounding Area, Wales, Electoral Registers, 1839-1966
Name: William Henry Berg
Residence Year: 1925
Street Address: Full Moon Farm
Residence Place: Glamorgan, Wales


Minnie and husband William H in 1946:

William H Berg
in the Swansea and Surrounding Area, Wales, Electoral Registers, 1839-1966
Name: William H Berg
Residence Year: 1946
Street Address: Villiers Street 10
Residence Place: Glamorgan, Wales


Both still there in 1959, but at No 9:

Minnie J Berg
in the Swansea and Surrounding Area, Wales, Electoral Registers, 1839-1966
Name: Minnie J Berg
Residence Year: 1959
Street Address: Villiers Street 9
Residence Place: Glamorgan, Wales


Their deaths (Minnie mistakenly called Winnie on the GRO Index):

Deaths Jun 1959 (>99%)
BERG Winnie J 64 Swansea 8b 620

Deaths Dec 1963 (>99%)
BERG WILLIAM H 71 SWANSEA 8B 684

William Henry Berg
in the 1911 Wales Census
Name: William Henry Berg
Age in 1911: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: Swansea
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: 32 Orchard Street Swansea
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Driver
Registration District: Swansea
Registration District Number: 594
Sub-registration District: Swansea
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Household Schedule Number: 140
Piece: 32779
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Evans 53, widow, charwoman, Swansea
David John Davies 31 - son [ but his name scored out ]
William Henry Berg 19 - son
Lucy Berg 14 - daughter



Marriages Sep 1907 (>99%)
BERG Elizabeth Swansea 11a 1739
EVANS William Henry Swansea 11a 1739


WH's birth:

BERG, WILLIAM HENRY mmn DAVIES
GRO Reference: 1891 D Quarter in SWANSEA Volume 11A Page 929



Elizabeth Bary
in the 1901 Wales Census
Name: Elizabeth Bary
Age in 1901: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: Swansea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration District: Swansea
Sub-registration District: Swansea
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 183
Piece: 5076
Folio: 24
Page Number: 39
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Bary 42 - widow
William Bary 9
Lizzie Bary 7
Lucy Bary 4


I don't see a Davies/Berg marriage - so far.
Maybe Elizabeth had been married before - but dozens of Elizabeth Davies-es married in Swansea alone 1875-1891.
There are no Berg marriages to any Elizabeth in Swansea in that time-span.

EDIT:
But see Berg (and previous) marriage in post below at 9:29

Elizabeth Burge
in the 1891 Wales Census
Name: Elizabeth Burge [ BURG on image ]
[Elizabeth Lucus]
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary Lucus
Gender: Female
Where born: Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: Swansea
Ecclesiastical parish: Swansea
Town: Swansea
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration District: Swansea
Sub registration district: Swansea
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors:
Piece: 4478
Folio: 77
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Lucus 69 [ DAVIES on image ]
Elizabeth Burge 32 - daughter, married
David I Acton 12 - son, Glamorgan

Elizabeth Acton
in the 1881 Wales Census
Name: Elizabeth Acton
[Elizabeth Davies]
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary Davies
Gender: Female
Where born: Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: Swansea Town
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: 1 Greenfield St
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: Domestic Servant
Registration District: Swansea
Sub registration district: Swansea
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors:
Piece: 5357
Folio: 145
Page Number: 40
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Davies 61
Elizabeth Acton 23 - widow
David J. Acton 1 - no birthplace given
Minnie Davies 16


Elizabeth's marriages:

Marriages Jun 1887 (>99%)
ACTON Bessy Swansea 11a 1052
Berg Henry Swansea 11a 1052


Marriages Sep 1879 (>99%)
ACTON George Scarlett Swansea 11a 669
DAVIES Betsey Swansea 11a 669
DAVIES Betsy Swansea 11a 669


Betsey Davies
in the Glamorganshire, Wales, Anglican Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1570-1994
Name: Betsey Davies
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: 1858
Marriage Date: 16 Aug 1879
Marriage Place: Swansea St James, Glamorganshire, Wales
Father: David Davies , hobbler <<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse: George Scarlett Acton, ships carpenter
Page number: 73

William Henry's baptism (birth posted above at 8:43 ):

William Henry Berg
in the Glamorganshire, Wales, Anglican Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1570-1994
Name: William Henry Berg
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 1 Dec 1891
Baptism Date: 20 Jan 1892
Baptism Place: Swansea St Mary, Glamorganshire, Wales
Father: Henry Berg [ mariner ]
Mother: Elizabeth Berg
Page number: 39

One of his sisters ( listed as Lizzie in 1901 census) :

Mary Elizabeth Berg
in the Glamorganshire, Wales, Anglican Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1570-1994
Name: Mary Elizabeth Berg
Baptism Age: 1
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 19 May 1893
Baptism Date: 1 Aug 1894
Baptism Place: Swansea St Mary, Glamorganshire, Wales
Father: Henry Berg [ sailor ]
Mother: Elizabeth Berg
Page number: 156


Mary Elizebeth Berg
in the 1911 Wales Census
Name: Mary Elizebeth Berg
Age in 1911: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation to Head: Sister
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: Neath
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: 3 Charles Pelle Place Neath
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Domestic Servant
Registration District: Neath
Registration District Number: 592
Sub-registration District: Neath
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Household Schedule Number: 7
Piece: 32636
Household Members:
Name Age
David John Davies 32 - head, Swansea
Louisa Jane Davies 33 - wife
Mary Louisa Davies 11
Margaret Elizabeth Davies 9
Florance Mabel Davies 7
David George Davies 4
Doris Davies 3
Arthur Henry Davies 10/12
Mary Elizebeth Berg 17


Birth of David Acton who is in the 1881 and 1891 censuses - he's returned to his birth surname by 1911:

DAVIES, DAVID JOHN -
GRO Reference: 1879 J Quarter in SWANSEA Volume 11A Page 698

David with his mother Elizabeth Davies/Acton/Berg/Evans:

David J Davies
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: David J Davies
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 13 May 1879
Residence Date: 1939
Address: Tfrwdvale Lodge Neath
Residence Place: Neath, Glamorganshire, Wales
Occupation: Unemployed Furnishing Stores Manager
Line Number: 7
Schedule Number: 106
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: XLKN
Borough: Neath
Registration district: 592-1
Inferred Spouse:
Louisa Jane Davies
Inferred Children:
Arthur H Davies
Household Members Age
David J Davies 60
Louisa Jane Davies 61
Arthur H Davies 29
Elizabeth Evans 82


??
Deaths Mar 1948 (>99%)
Evans Elizabeth 90 Neath 8b 439

Going back to Elizabeth's husband Henry Berg -


Henry Berg
in the Ireland, Crew Lists and Shipping Agreements, 1863-1920
Name: Henry Berg
Employment Start Age: 30
Birth Date: abt 1858
Birthplace: none stated
Employment Start Date: 30 Jul 1888
Employment Start Place: Swansea
Employment End Date: 1889 [ failed to join ]
Occupation: Able Seaman
Ship: City of Rotterdam


???
Henry Berg
in the Glamorgan, Wales, Workhouse Registers, 1850-1920
Name: Henry Berg
Record Type: Residence
Residence Date: 1897
Residence Place: Glamorgan, Wales
Residence Poor Law Union: Cardiff

9 days maintenance.



???
Deaths Mar 1909
BERG Henry 49 London C. 1c 10

Maybe not, as Elizabeth married Henry Evans in 1907.
She's listed as a widow in 1901.
Maybe they'd separated - or maybe he went back to sea and died abroad.

Henry Berg
in the Ireland, Crew Lists and Shipping Agreements, 1863-1920
Name: Henry Berg
Employment Start Age: 34
Birth Date: abt 1857
Birth Place: Hamburg <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Employment Start Date: 21 Mar 1891
Employment Start Place: Swansea
Employment End Date: 3 Jun 1891
Occupation: Able Seaman

Discharged in Dublin.

Thank you for this. I found out a but more than I thought. Now knowing who her grandfather's parents were. Thank you for taking the time to help. I appreciate it.