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1 Aug 2010 15:52 |
John married Amy Susan Dunnet in 1877. They initially had Alexander Atchison followed by a William Atchison. I am trying to trace their desdendants.
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Flick
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1 Aug 2010 15:55 |
In which part of the world?
And have you tried looking for any bmd records?
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Gee
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1 Aug 2010 16:23 |
Where have you got to with this family?
1881 England Census about John Atchison Name: John Atchison Age: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1856 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Amy Gender: Male Where born: Tottenham, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Islington County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 1 Frederick St (North Side) Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Lapidary Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Islington West ED, institution, or vessel: 44 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Atchison 25 Amy Atchison 23 Alexander Atchison 4 William Atchison 1
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Catherine
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1 Aug 2010 16:29 |
for ref:-
Marriages Sep 1877 (>99%) Atchison John Westminster 1a 938 Brown Robert Edward Westminster 1a 938 Dummett Amy Susan Westminster 1a 938 Shea Mary Ann Westminster 1a 938
Name: John Atkinson Spouse Name: Ammy Hammett Record Type: Banns Event Date: 22 Apr 1877 Parish: St James, Clerkenwell County: Middlesex Borough: Islington
(I've checked original and name is Atchison)
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1 Aug 2010 16:31 |
1891 England Census about John Scott Atchenson <<Oriental stone cutter Name: John Scott Atchenson Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1856 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Alice S Gender: Male Where born: Stamford, London, England Civil parish: Lambeth Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Lambeth Sub-registration district: Brixton ED, institution, or vessel: 35 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Scott Atchenson 35 Alice S Atchenson 30 Ruby S Atchenson 9 <<<New York
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1 Aug 2010 16:31 |
1901
Name: Amy Atchison Age: 43 Estimated birth year: abt 1858 Gender: Female Where born: Marylebone, London, England Civil parish: Islington Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Islington County/Island: London Country: England
Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Barnsbury ED, institution, or vessel: 47 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 120 Household Members: Name Age Alexander Atchison 71 Amy Atchison 43 William Atchison 21 Maggie Atchison 14 Florence Atchison 12
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1 Aug 2010 16:33 |
1891.........
Name: Amy Atchison Age: 32 Estimated birth year: abt 1859 Relation: Head Where born: London, England Civil parish: Egham Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist Town: Egham County/Island: Surrey Country: England Registration district: Windsor Sub-registration district: Egham ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Amy Atchison 32 Alexandra Atchison 14 William Atchison 11 Barbara Atchison 9 Maggie Atchison 4 Florance Atchison 3
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1 Aug 2010 16:34 |
1901 England Census about John Atchinson Name: John Atchinson Age: 45 Estimated birth year: abt 1856 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Alice Gender: Male Where born: Stamford Hill, London, England Civil parish: St Luke Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas Kings Square County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Holborn Sub-registration district: City Road ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 142 Household Members: Name Age John Atchinson 45 Alice Atchinson 40 Ruby S Atchinson 14 Arthur Atchinson 1 Anyone got full access to the 1911 please
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Catherine
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1 Aug 2010 16:39 |
Here's one child to this couple:-
Name: Florence Alice Atchison Record Type: Baptism Date: 6 Jun 1888 Born: 7 Apr 1888 Father's Name: John Atchison Occupation: (looks like) Lapidary ? Mother's Name: Amy Atchison Parish: St John the Divine, Stamford Hill Borough: Haringey County: Middlesex Address: 3 Netherton Road
A lapidary (the word means "concerned with stones") is an artist or artisan who forms stone, mineral, gemstones, and other suitably durable materials
EDIT: another one:- Name: Barbara Atchison Record Type: Baptism Date: 26 Feb 1882 Born: 29 Jan 1882 Father's Name: John Atchison Occupation: Lapidary Mother's Name: Amy Susan Atchison Parish: St George, Bloomsbury Borough: Camden County: Middlesex Address: 14 Bury Street
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Catherine
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1 Aug 2010 16:50 |
Relevant ? Name: Ruby Scott Atchison Age: 23 Estimated birth year: abt 1887 Spouse Name: David Firth Clark Spouse Age: 29 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 1 Jan 1910 Parish: St Mark, Myddelton Square County: Middlesex Borough: Islington Father Name: John Atchison Spouse Father Name: James Clark
Name: Alexander Atchison Age: 24 Estimated birth year: abt 1877 Occupation: Cabinet Maker Address: 40 Wharton Street Spouse Name: Frances Laura Smith Spouse Age: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1879 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 6 Apr 1901 Parish: St Mark, Myddelton Square County: Middlesex Borough: Islington Father Name: John Scott Atchison Occupation: Lapidary Spouse Father Name: Samuel Smith
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Catherine
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1 Aug 2010 17:05 |
So which is the correct family, John and Amy Susan or John Scott and Alice? Or Are they the same John?
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Gee
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1 Aug 2010 17:16 |
Looks like they the same John and he has taken up with Alice!
Lapidary....fine stone worker as in Jewells
1911 anyone?
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Flick
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1 Aug 2010 17:16 |
I would suggest that John abandoned Amy and her children....leaving them with his father......and took up with Alice
The occupation is too specialised to be a coincidence...........
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Catherine
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1 Aug 2010 17:21 |
1911 ATCHINSON, John Head Married 28 years M 55 1856 Lapidary London Stamford Hill VIEW ATCHINSON, Alice Wife Married F 50 1861 Ladies Belt Maker London St Pancras VIEW ATCHINSON, Arthur Scott Son M 11 1900 School London Clerkenwell VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 952 Reference: RG14PN952 RG78PN32 RD10 SD6 ED50 SN124 Registration District: Islington Sub District: Islington South East Enumeration District: 50 Parish: Islington Address: 5 Hale St Islington County: London
.....still with Alice!
noted as having 2 children both living! Married for 28years. Wonder if he married Alice in America so was a bigamist?
Makes me think of the episode of 'Who do you think you are' a couple of weeks ago.
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Flick
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1 Aug 2010 17:24 |
Says on 1911 image that they have been married for 28 years!!
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1 Aug 2010 17:29 |
Who, I wonder, was the father of the children born to Amy after 1881? Or did John have a bike?
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Catherine
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1 Aug 2010 17:34 |
So he married Amy in 1877. Alexander was born in 1877 followed by William in 1880. Then we have Barbara who was born in 1882 to Amy, and Ruby who was also born in 1882 to Alice. Then follows Maggie in 1887 and Florance in 1888. Finally there's Arthur in 1900 to Alice.
Looks like he had a double life to me, especially as the baptism records for Barbara and Florence give John as father.
I don't have anything as exciting as this in my tree!
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Catherine
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1 Aug 2010 17:39 |
Interesting:-
WAND, James Head Married M 54 1857 Boot Maker Bloomsbury VIEW WAND, Amy Wife Married 9 years F 53 1858 Machinist London VIEW ATCHINSON, Florence Stepdaughter Widow F 22 1889 Machinist Islington London VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 883 Reference: RG14PN883 RG78PN31 RD10 SD5 ED12 SN331 Registration District: Islington Sub District: Barnsbury Enumeration District:
12 Parish: Islington Address: 32 Charlotte St Islington N County: London
Florence is not noted as Widow but Single!
BUT can't find a marriage?
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Catherine
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1 Aug 2010 17:48 |
Anyone have access to US bmd to have a look for a birth for Ruby?
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Can anyone find him going to US and coming back to England?
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Gee
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1 Aug 2010 17:54 |
With mother Alice
UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Miss R S Atchison Name: Miss R S Atchison Birth Date: abt 1887 Age: 9 Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States Arrival Date: Aug 1896 Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England Ship Name: Campania Search Ship Database: View the 'Campania' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
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