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I have a marriage certificate dated 06 Sept 1919 for Florence Hunter (widow) aged 24 who married James Hughes in Durham.

Florence Kirk is her maiden name (father James Kirk)

The problem I am having is that i cannot locate a marriage record for when she became "Hunter" or who her first husband could be.

I have found her father James Kirk on the 1911 census and Florence isn't listed on there either . She wouldve been about 16 in 1911.

Can anyone help me please

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Florence Kirk
Name: Florence Kirk
Year of Registration: 1914
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's Surname: Hunter
District: Middlesbrough (1875-1968)
County: Yorkshire - North Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 1211

Nicholas Hunter




England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Nicholas Hunter
Name: Nicholas Hunter
Death Registration Month/Year: 1918
Age at death (estimated): 57
Registration district: Gateshead
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 1047

Maybe Florence, and she's a servant living in, as there are no other Kirk s living with her.

1911 basic search

HOUSEHOLD KIRK FLORRIE F 1895 16 Middlesbrough Yorkshire North Riding

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Sep 1918 (>99%)
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Hunter John Kirk Durham 10a 751

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

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Deaths Sep 1918 (>99%)
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Hunter John 0 Durham 10a 481

Oh my word! is it possible that Florence couldve married at 19 year old to someone who was possibly 53 years of age.

Things haven't changed much then! for men!

The Florence that is a servant living in 1911 census is there any hunters on there, sorry to be a pain

Tried that doing a basic search, no there wasn't :-(

Where was Florence born?

As the marriage took place in M'bro, then this may be her in 1911, would the place of birth fit here ?

KEMP, William Stonehouse Head Married M 25 1886 Coal Dealer Yorks Grangetown VIEW
KEMP, Mary Jane Wife Married 1 years F 21 1890 Yorks Eston VIEW
KEMP, Everelda Jane Daughter F 0 (2 MONTHS) 1911 Yorks Grangetown VIEW
KIRK, Florrie Visitor Single F 16 1895 Yorks Eston VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
29208 Reference:
RG14PN29208 RG78PN1694 RD535 SD1 ED5 SN2

Registration District:
Middlesbrough Sub District:
Ormesby EnumerationDistrict:
5 Parish:
Eston

Address:
4 Cheetham St Grangetown Yorkshire County:
Yorkshire (North riding)

1901 Census

Name: Nicholas Hunter
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Janes
Gender: Male
Where born: Seaham Harbor, Durham, England

Civil parish: Gateshead
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Gateshead
Sub-registration district: Gateshead
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 244
Household Members: Name Age
Nicholas Hunter 40 {occupation lokks like Gas (somehing!) Labourer
Janes Hunter 41
Edward Hunter 16
Albert Hunter 12
Thomas Hunter 10
Mary Elizabeth Hunter 7
Eleanor Hunter 4
Nicholas Hunter 2

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4750; Folio: 29; Page: 49.

Hi yeah this must be her as on the 1911 census for her father and mother it states the other children being born Eston, Yorks. The other children were 19, 17 and 13 and all came from there.

Florence was born abt 1895 which wouldve made her 16 in 1911 and it must be her as her birth place fits in with her siblings.

As for her husband though I am edging towards it being Nicholas only by narrowing it down to "middlesbrough"

The only Nicholas Hunter I can see in 1911 living in M'bro is this one:-

HUNTER, Robert Haswell Head Married M 52 1859 Bricklayers Labourers Durham Seaham Harlam VIEW
HUNTER, Elizabeth Wife Married 1 years F 45 1866 Yorkshire South Bank VIEW
HUNTER, John Thomas Son Single M 23 1888 Crane Driver Yorkshire Grangetown VIEW
HUNTER, Stanley Son Single M 21 1890 Labourer Smelting Furnace Yorkshire Grangetown VIEW
HUNTER, Nicholas Son Single M 19 1892 Locomotive Fireman Yorkshire Grangetown VIEW
RAMSAY, Lily Stepdaughter F 12 1899 School Yorkshire Grangetown VIEW
HUNTER, Olive Daughter F 11 1900 School Yorkshire Grangetown VIEW
RAMSAY, Alick Stepson M 10 1901 School Yorkshire Grangetown VIEW
HUNTER, Lavinia Daughter F 9 1902 Yorkshire Grangetown VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
29207 Reference:
RG14PN29207 RG78PN1694 RD535 SD1 ED4 SN91

Registration District:
Middlesbrough Sub District:
Ormesby EnumerationDistrict:
4 Parish:
Eston

Address:
73 Victoria Road Grangetown County:
Yorkshire (North riding)

Also Grangetown!

1891

Name: Nicholas Hunter
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Janet
Gender: Male
Where born: Seaham Harbour, Durham, England

Civil parish: Gateshead
Ecclesiastical parish: St Aidans
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Gateshead
Sub-registration district: Gateshead
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Nicholas Hunter 30 Blacksmith Striker
Janet Hunter 32
Edward Hunter 6
Nicholas Hunter 4
Albert Hunter 1

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4177; Folio 29; Page 26; GSU roll: 6099287.

Maybe this one in 1911??

HOUSEHOLD HUNTER EALENOR F 1896 15 Gateshead Durham
HOUSEHOLD HUNTER EDWARD M 1884 27 Gateshead Durham
HOUSEHOLD HUNTER JANET F 1862 49 Gateshead Durham
HOUSEHOLD HUNTER NICHOLAS M 1861 50 Gateshead Durham
HOUSEHOLD HUNTER NICHOLAS M 1898 13 Gateshead Durham
HOUSEHOLD HUNTER SARAH F 1904 7 Gateshead Durham
HOUSEHOLD HUNTER THOMAS M 1891 20 Gateshead Durham



Maybe not, I don't see a death for Janet.

That must be her then. I cant believe it though that she would have married such an older man. (unless there were other reasons) I think i will have to order the marriage certificate to be certain.
thanks

I think that was the wrong death for Nicholas - perhaps it was his father's death because I think this is Florrie's Nicholas!

Name: HUNTER, NICHOLAS
Initials: N
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Serjeant
Regiment/Service: Yorkshire Regiment
Unit Text: 4th Bn.
Age: 24
Date of Death: 27/09/1916
Service No: 1854
Additional information: Son of Robert Hunter, of 30, Gronelle Rd., Grangetown, Middlesbrough; husband of Florence Hunter, of 7, Arthur St., Ushaw Moor, Durham.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 3 A and 3 D.
Memorial: THIEPVAL MEMORIAL

1901 Census

Name: Nicholas Hunter
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert H
Mother's Name: Sarah A
Gender: Male
Where born: Grangetown, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Eston
Ecclesiastical parish: Eston St Helen
Town: Eston and Grangetown
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Ormesby
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 179
Household Members: Name Age
Robert H Hunter 40
Sarah A Hunter 39
Robert H Hunter 17
Margaret Hunter 15
John T Hunter 13
Stanley Hunter 11
Nicholas Hunter 8
George Hunter 6
Olive M Hunter 1

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4585; Folio: 20; Page: 31.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1882 (>99%)
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Darbyson Sarah Ann Stockton 10a 73
HUNTER Robert Haswell Stockton 10a 73
Hunter Robert Haxwell Stockton 10a 73

Hi rootgatherer

That is definately her! On the census for Florence parents the address is 7 Arthur Street, Ushaw Moor and she was living there on her marriage certificate to her 2nd husband

Can you tell me how you found that death info please and wherabouts i would be able to find a marriage certificate for them.

Thats great news thank you

Father Robert, so my 1911 could be him then.
Well found rootgatherer.