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Clara Maude Hannaford

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Gordon

Gordon Report 21 Apr 2010 23:02

Mother of Joan Francis (nee Hannaford b. Kent c 1920). Clara was my gran and died when I was about 5 (1967) so she would have been born c. 1885 as she was about 80 when she died. She had three daughters, Margeret, Joan & Phyllis. They were all brought up in Plymouth after my Grandad was invalided out of the Army (Red Caps - Military Police). Mum died and I really know little about her side of the family. Any help would be gratefully received. Gordon

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 21 Apr 2010 23:09

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

Maybe you've searched for her birth - there isn't one for that name!

But there's a Clara registered in Plymouth in 1882 (and a Clara Ann in Totnes in 1880).

Do you have a subscription at a site where you can search censuses?

What you need is at least her birth certificate for her parents' names.

Since it might not be clear what her name was when her birth was registered, you might have to start with her marriage certificate, which will give her father's name.

You can find the info for ordering a certificate at FreeBMD - the link up above. Free marriage, birth and death registration info. ;)

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 21 Apr 2010 23:09

Maybe it's just me but I'm struggling a bit to find her birth and marriage. What was your grandfather's full name?
Jan

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 21 Apr 2010 23:10

I dont think Hannaford is Claras maiden name..

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 21 Apr 2010 23:11

Ah, both of us.

A previous marriage maybe?

Marriages Dec 1913
Anscombe Elizabeth M Potter Dover 2a 2468
Hannaford Clara M Randall Dover 2a 2468
Potter Stephen W Anscombe Dover 2a 2468
Randall Henry J Hannaford Dover 2a 2468


Possibly to a military man, possibly lost to WWI ... ?
Nope, nothing at CWGC site.

Flick

Flick Report 21 Apr 2010 23:11

No birth for Joan F Hannaford in Kent - or anywhere else in England or Wales

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 21 Apr 2010 23:12

?

Name: Clara Maud Hannaford
Birth Date: 16 Feb 1885
Death Registration Month/Year: 1973
Registration district: Plymouth
Inferred County: Devonshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 1592

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 21 Apr 2010 23:13

There are even quite a few Clara's marrying Hannafords!!

EDIT well done FBG - omitted to check Ancestry!

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 21 Apr 2010 23:13

Okay, something/somebody is confused. I know I am. Right - Hannaford isn't Clara's birth surname, it's Joan's ... I think Francis is Joan's married surname ...?

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 21 Apr 2010 23:14

Thats the way I read it Janey..

But I cant find Joans birth any more than you lot!

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 21 Apr 2010 23:16

See what you mean - the heading misled us. Is this Joan?

Births Mar 1921 (>99%)
Hannaford Joan D Nash Lewisham 1d 2025

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 21 Apr 2010 23:16

The only Clara Maud(e) born in Devon in Q1 1885:

Births Mar 1885
Eveleigh Clara Maud Exeter 5b 92

Flick

Flick Report 21 Apr 2010 23:17

Births Mar 1885 (>99%)
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Aldrige Clara Maud M Foleshill 6d 497
Bradford Clara Maud Tendring 4a 506
Cosgrove Clara Maud St Saviour 1d 95
DITCH Clara Maud E. Ashford 2a 839
Eldridge Clara Maud Lewisham 1d 1187
Eveleigh Clara Maud Exeter 5b 92
FELLOWS Clara Maud Sheffield 9c 573
Harrison Clara Maud Keighley 9a 174
Hunter Clara Maud Portsea 2b 552
Nash Clara Maud Leicester 7a 303
Pitman Clara Maud Barton Regis 6a 134
Rainbird Clara Maud Ware 3a 407
Roberts Clara Maud Stourbridge 6c 209
Smith Clara Maud Poplar 1c 709
Tilstona Clara Maud Prescot 8b 744
Tomlinson Clara Maud Uppingham 7a 359
Turner Clara Maud Camberwell 1d 902

Flick

Flick Report 21 Apr 2010 23:18

Is/was Joan your mother?

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 21 Apr 2010 23:19

But I wonder about this one:

Births Mar 1921
Hannaford Joan Blight Plymouth 5b 397

Births Jun 1885
Bright Clara Maud Plymouth 5b 233

Marriages Dec 1911
Algar William Plymouth 5b 613
Blight Maud Plymouth 5b 613


Kinda like ...


edit edit edit

I deleted the wrong name above.

Marriages Dec 1911
Algar William Plymouth 5b 613
> Blight Maud Plymouth 5b 613
Collins Mary Plymouth 5b 613
> HANNAFORD Henry Plymouth 5b 613

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 21 Apr 2010 23:19

but no Margaret or Phyllis coming up with mothers MN Nash??

Flick

Flick Report 21 Apr 2010 23:20

Gordon

Why the uncertainty about your mother's year of birth?

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 21 Apr 2010 23:20

Name: Joan Hannaford
Spouse Surname: Francis
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1941
Registration district: Plymouth
Registration county (inferred): Devon
Volume Number: 5b
Page Number: 1114

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 21 Apr 2010 23:21

And place of birth Flick.

You get it Janey


Births Mar 1921
Hannaford Joan Blight Plymouth 5b 397
Births Jun 1914
Hannaford Richard H Bright Plymouth 5b 369
Births Sep 1917
Hannaford Margaret E Bright Portsmouth 2b 699
Births Mar 1923
Hannaford Phyllis E Bright Plympton 5b 298

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 21 Apr 2010 23:21

Gordon did say Joan was born Kent hence my suggestion above - but who knows!
Where's the brandy?
Jan