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Tansy
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26 Jun 2010 12:48 |
Hi, I'm trying to find my great x4 grandparents who I believe are from Leicestershire.
Thomas Hallford/Halford and Ann Hargraves got married in 1822 and had a son, George in 1841.
Any information about them or the birth/ death dates etc for Thomas and Ann would be greatly appreciated please and also any details of their other children if they had any.
Many thanks, Tansy
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ellieathome
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26 Jun 2010 12:51 |
Where was George born ,to find a census
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Dea
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26 Jun 2010 12:52 |
Are you sure about your dates? - Not impossible but they don't look quite right.
What other info do you have please?
Dea x
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26 Jun 2010 12:55 |
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THOMAS HALLFORD Pedigree Male Family
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: ANN HARGRAVES Family Marriage: 04 OCT 1822 Castle Donnington, Leicester, England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
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26 Jun 2010 12:57 |
For reference. I assume this is the couple's marriage you speak of
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THOMAS HALLFORD Male Marriages: Spouse: ANN HARGRAVES Family Marriage: 04 OCT 1822 Castle Donnington, Leicester, England
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26 Jun 2010 13:01 |
Only birth for Leicestershire, but we don't know if they lived there after marriage.
Would need to check the certificate for parents. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1838 HALFORD George - Nuneaton 16 364
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ellieathome
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26 Jun 2010 13:03 |
1851 This your GEORGE ? Name: George Halford Age: 13 Estimated birth year: abt 1838 Gender: Male Where born: Hemington, Leicestershire, England Civil parish: Hemington County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Shardlow Sub-registration district: Castle Donnington ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 24 Household Members: Name Age Sophia White 49 Eunice White 84 Hannah Sophie White 8 Jno Palmer White 7 Sarah Ann Poyser 21 George Halford 13 View Original Record
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Astra
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26 Jun 2010 13:10 |
Did he marry Priscilla
George Holford [George Halford] Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Druscilla Gender: Male Where born: Castle Donnington, Leicestershire, England Civil parish: Islington St Peter County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Islington East ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 439 Household Members: Name Age George Holford 30>>>>>Captain Druscilla Holford 29>>>>>Priscilla Lucy Holford 3 James Holford 7 Richard Holford 4
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Tansy
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26 Jun 2010 13:16 |
Thank you for all your replies.
As far as I'm aware, George was born in Castle Donnington, however I have not been able to find a birth certificate.
Yes, he married Priscilla Bishop in 1865.
As for the dates, I know it seems like a long time between Thomas and Ann's marriage and the birth of George. My only conlucion for that can be that they had more children before George?
Also, I don't know if this will help, but George was a boatman, as were many of his sons so I would imagine his father, Thomas also worked on the barges...
Many thanks, Tansy
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Astra
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26 Jun 2010 13:20 |
Does his father's name come from George's marriage certificate? It's just that I have been checking other trees on Ancestry and they all have his father as George.
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Tansy
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26 Jun 2010 13:24 |
Hi Astra,
Well I actually got the information from a family group sheet sent by a correspondant. It just lists George's parents as Thomas Hallford and Ann Hargraves.
Unfortunately there is no other information about his parents...
Regards, Tansy
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Astra
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26 Jun 2010 13:31 |
The problem is I can't find a marriage to Priscilla Bishop in 1865. Have you found details of their marriage. If that is them in the 1871 which I posted above then that points to them marrying before 1865. Which of their children is your next in line?
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Astra
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26 Jun 2010 13:37 |
This is them in 1881
George Hulford [George Halford] Age: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Priscilla Gender: Male Where born: Castle Gathton, Leicestershire, England Civil parish: Paddington County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: Barge Brothers Amberly Wharf 10357 Paddington Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Boatman Registration district: Kensington Sub-registration district: St Mary Paddington ED, institution, or vessel: 30a Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age George Hulford 40 Priscilla Hulford 39 James Hulford 19 Richard Hulford 15 Lucy Hulford 13 Henry Hulford 11 Stephen Hulford 8 Lydia Hulford 3
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Dea
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26 Jun 2010 13:39 |
Tansy,
I think you need to put this 'family group sheet' to one side at the moment and start from what you actually know!! (It may well be correct but at the moment it is just confusing!)
Who is the ancestor who you know is 'your's' ??
Dea x
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Tansy
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26 Jun 2010 13:41 |
Ah, I see.
Umm I'm not quite sure about that then...
Yes, I have their first son listed as James Holford, born in 1863 so I supose that wouldn't quite fit... I guess I just assumed that maybe he was born out of wedlock and left it at that...
I will have another search to see if I can trace a marriage record.
Oh. Well, Violet May Hallford was my great grandmother, her father, Henry George Hallford was my great great grandfather and his father George Hallford was my great great great grandfather! This is all definate and confirmed with my grandmother and other Genes Reunited members who we've found are relations.
Many thanks, Tansy
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Dea
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26 Jun 2010 13:56 |
Have to 'do lunch' but will come back to it later.
Dea Xxx
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Tansy
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26 Jun 2010 13:57 |
Hehe, okay. Thank you very much for all your help :)
Tansy x
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26 Jun 2010 14:04 |
is this your Violet May with father Henry George ?
1911 census -
HALLFORD, Henry George Head Married M 44 1867 Baston By Trade North Ide Near Exeter VIEW HALLFORD, Annie Wife F 43 1868 Duty At Home Usley VIEW HALLFORD, Annie Daughter Single F 20 1891 Duty At Home Usley VIEW HALLFORD, Henry George Son Single M 18 1893 Northolt Sales Works Usley VIEW HALLFORD, Alice Daughter Single F 15 1896 Duty At Home Usley VIEW HALLFORD, Nelly Daughter F 13 1898 School Usley VIEW HALLFORD, Lizzie Elizabeth Daughter F 6 1905 School Usley VIEW ***HALLFORD, Violet May Daughter F 3 1908 Northolt VIEW HALLFORD, Priscella Widow F 71 1840 Wantage VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 6787 Reference: RG14PN6787 RG78PN339 RD127 SD3 ED5 SN27 Registration District: Uxbridge Sub District: Hayes Enumeration District: 5 Parish: Northolt Address: 1 Brickfield Cottage West End County: Middlesex
NOTE - Henry's place of birth is mis-transcribed. Exeter should read Uxbridge.
His occupation is Boatman.
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Choccy
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26 Jun 2010 14:13 |
1881 -
HULFORD, George Head Married M 40 1841 Boatman Castle Gathton Leicestershire VIEW HULFORD, Priscilla Wife Married F 39 1842 Wantage Berkshire VIEW HULFORD, James Son Single M 19 1862 Boatman Paddington Middlesex VIEW HULFORD, Richard Son Single M 15 1866 Boatman West Drayton Middlesex VIEW HULFORD, Lucy Daughter Single F 13 1868 Scholar Paddington Middlesex VIEW ****HULFORD, Henry Son Single M 11 1870 Scholar West Drayton Middlesex VIEW HULFORD, Stephen Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar West Drayton Middlesex VIEW HULFORD, Lydia Daughter Single F 3 1878 Scholar West Drayton Middlesex VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG11 Piece: 11 Folio: 102 Page: 46 Registration District: Kensington Sub District: St Mary Paddington Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Paddington Municipal Borough: Address: 357, Barge Brothers Amberly Wharf 1, Paddington, Paddington County: Middlesex
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Tansy
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26 Jun 2010 14:18 |
Hiya,
Yep that's them! :)
Many thanks, Tansy
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