I have a G Grandmother called Ellen Hale Stockwell, who married William Allen in Wottom-under-Edge, Glos. in 1886. Unforrtunately I cannot find her parents or siblings, indeed nothing about her before she married William. Can anyone suggest where I might look? Her d.o.b is 28/02/1865. Thanks June
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Husband's Name William ALLEN (AFN:1RNR-P6P) Pedigree Born: 15 Jan 1867 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucester, Eng Died: 11 Aug 1952 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng Buried: 14 Aug 1952 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng Married: 1 Aug 1886 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng Father: John ALLEN (AFN:1RNR-Q22) Family Mother: Sarah TURNER (AFN:1RNR-Q38)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wife's Name Ellen HALE STOCKWELL (AFN:1RNR-P7W) Pedigree Born: 28 Feb 1865/1867 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucester, Eng Died: 7 Jan 1939 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng Buried: 9 Jan 1939 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng Married: 1 Aug 1886 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng Father: Mother:
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Sex Name F Florence Lily ALLEN (AFN:1RNR-PBJ) Pedigree Born: 23 Mar 1889 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng Christened: 1 Jun 1896 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng Died: 8 Aug 1930 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng Buried: 11 Aug 1930 Place: , Gloucs., Eng
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. Sex Name M Frank Edward ALLEN (AFN:1RNR-PCQ) Pedigree Born: 10 Apr 1891 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng Christened: 1 Jun 1896 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng Died: 17 Jun 1974 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng Buried: 20 Jun 1974 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3. Sex Name M Harry Henry ALLEN (AFN:1RNR-P2V) Pedigree Born: 22 Apr 1896 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucester, Eng Died: 22 Apr 1974 Place: Gloucester, Gloucs., Eng Buried: 25 Apr 1974 Place: Ashleworth, Gloucs., Eng
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4. Sex Name F Nellie ALLEN (AFN:1RNR-PHK) Pedigree Born: 24 Jul 1905 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng Died: 8 May 1983 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng Buried: 11 May 1983 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5. Sex Name F Evelyn May ALLEN (AFN:1RNR-PJR) Pedigree Born: 1 Aug 1907 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng Died: 20 Apr 1977 Place: Burnham, On Sea, Eng Buried: 24 Apr 1977 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6. Sex Name M John ALLEN (AFN:1RNR-P84) Pedigree Born: 4 Aug 1886 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng Christened: 18 Oct 1886 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng Died: 7 Feb 1975 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng Buried: 11 Feb 1975 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7. Sex Name M Ernest Albert ALLEN (AFN:1RNR-PDX) Pedigree Born: 8 Nov 1893 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng Christened: 8 Nov 1893 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng Died: 23 Mar 1972 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng Buried: 26 Mar 1972 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8. Sex Name F Alice Emily ALLEN (AFN:1RNR-P9B) Pedigree Born: 20 Dec 1887 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng Christened: 1 Jan 1896 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng Died: 4 Jan 1968 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9. Sex Name M William ALLEN (AFN:1RNR-PF5) Pedigree Born: 29 Dec 1898 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng Christened: 24 Feb 1899 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng Died: 31 Dec 1969 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng Buried: 4 Jan 1969 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10. Sex Name M Peter Charles ALLEN (AFN:1RNR-PGC) Pedigree Born: 29 Dec 1903 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng Died: 18 Mar 1934 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng Buried: 22 Mar 1934 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
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1881
Thomas H. GREEN Head W Male 50 Tewkesbury, Gloucester, England Tailor Rose GREEN Daur U Female 21 Tewkesbury, Gloucester, England Matilda GREEN Daur U Female 17 Tewkesbury, Gloucester, England Ellen STOCKWELL Grand Daur Female 5 Gloster, Gloucester, England Scholar Catherine STOCKWELL Grand Daur Female 1 Gloster, Gloucester, England Henry GREEN Uncle W Male 70 Bredons Hardwick, Worcester, England Tailor Fredk. STOCKWELL Son In Law M Male 24 Gloster, Gloucester, England Carpenter Ellen M. STOCKWELL Daur M Female 24 Tewkesbury, Gloucester, England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 1 Masons Ct Census Place Tewkesbury, Gloucester, England Family History Library Film 1341621 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2578 / 73 Page Number 22
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Thanks Ann. All the info about the Allens I already have, but I wanted Ellen's Father and Mother and ? siblings. The second family , the 2 Ellen's are the wrong age, as my Ellen was born in 1865 Thanks for trying. Regards June
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Was Ellen's maiden name Hale? I have put every forename of her children with Hale in the hope that she may have used one of her parents names for one of her children but come up with nothing!!!
By the way, the first Ellen's birth date is correct
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........as I was thinking ...
Births Dec 1866 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Oliver Ellen E Dursley 6a 190
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Marriages Sep 1886 (97%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Allen William Dursley 6a 371 OLIVER Ellen Elizabeth Dursley 6a 371
but if you have the certificates, then obviously it's just a coincidence.
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Hi June, like you Ellen Hale Stockwell is my G Grandmother & I cannot find any details on her parents/siblings. I am the Grandaughter of Nellie Allen. Please contact me if you have any further details. Regards Barbara
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Welcome to the boards Barbara. The thread is over 8 years old and it's unlikely that June is checking for replies now.
You could try clicking on her name to send her a personal message. If the has the same email address she registered with Genes they can let her know there's a message in the system.
You have to hope she can receive the message and then is in a position to reply after all this time.
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OK so its an old post, but new records available soince
1911 for family
Name: Ellen Allen Age in 1911: 46 Estimated birth year: abt 1865 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: Wottonunderedge, Gloucestershire Civil Parish: Wotton under Edge Search Photos: Search for 'Wotton under Edge' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street address: Gloster Row, Wotton Under Edge, Glosshire Marital Status: Married Years Married: 24 Estimated Marriage Year: 1887 Occupation: Household Duties Registration district: Dursley Registration District Number: 322 Sub-registration district: Wotton Under Edge ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Household schedule number: 186 Piece: 15186 Household Members: Name Age William Allen 44 Ellen Allen 46 John Allen 24 Emily Allen 23 Edward Allen 20 Albert Allen 17 Harry Allen 15 William Allen 12 Charles Allen 10 Nellie Allen 7 Evelina Allen 4
Birth of 1st child
MMN Hale?
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: ALLEN, JOHN HALE GRO Reference: 1886 S Quarter in DURSLEY Volume 06A Page 233
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I realise Barbara has added to an old thread.
Barbara, have you bought William and Ellen's marriage certificate please? It may name her father and that may make it possible to identify her on earlier census records. From the GRO index of births for her children it gives her maiden name as Hale although she married as Stockwell. That would suggest either a previous marriage or that Stockwell was a stepfather's surname?
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