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The mysterious George Hainsworth

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Julie

Julie Report 12 Mar 2011 17:48

I'm trying to trace my great-grandfather George Hainsworth, born c.1870 in the Bradford/Leeds area. Husband of Ada (nee Sunderland), father of Norman, Clarice, Eva, Elizabeth and Mildred Alice. He worked as a printing machine fitter. I am baffled by the fact that he does not appear in birth, marriage or census records - by 1911 Ada was a widow.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 12 Mar 2011 17:53

This looks like their marriage:-

Marriages Jun 1887
HAINSWORTH George Bradford, Y. 9b 86

Spouse Ada Sunderland.

He was probably born a bit before 1870 I would think.

If you buy the marriage certificate it will give you his father's name which will help finding him in the census records.

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 12 Mar 2011 17:54

There are a few possibilities for his birth.

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 12 Mar 2011 17:57

Could this be them in the 1891 census:-

HAINSWORTH, George Head Married M 34 1857 Mechanic Fitter
Leeds
Yorkshire
HAINSWORTH, Ada Wife Married F 25 1866
Morton
Yorkshire
HAINSWORTH, Herbert Son M 4 1887
Manningham
Yorkshire VIEW
HAINSWORTH, Fred Son M 2 1889
Leathley
Yorkshire

Address:
8, Ilkley Road, Otley


RG number: RG12
Piece: 3528
Folio: 124
Page: 29

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 12 Mar 2011 18:03

Same family in 1901 census:-

HAINSWORTH, Ada Head Widow F 33 1868
Morton
Yorkshire
HAINSWORTH, Herbert Son Single M 14 1887 Errand Boy
Manningham
Yorkshire
HAINSWORTH, Fred Son Single M 13 1888
Manningham
Yorkshire
HAINSWORTH, Norman Son Single M 10 1891
Otley
Yorkshire
HAINSWORTH, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 8 1893
Otley
Yorkshire
HAINSWORTH, Mildred Daughter Single F 3 1898
Otley
Yorkshire VIEW
BROWN, George Brother Single M 43 1858 Labourer (Bricklayer)
Leeds
Yorkshire

Address:
29, Cardigan View, Headingley Cum Burley, Burley


RG number: RG13
Piece: 4242
Folio: 47
Page: 23

Kath. x

Julie

Julie Report 12 Mar 2011 19:35

Thanks so much!

Julie

Julie

Julie Report 13 Mar 2011 14:16

It's odd that Ada is described as a widow in the 1901 census when her youngest child, Eva Hainsworth, was born in 1903. I've trawled through the death records from the last quarter of 1897 (my grandmother Mildred was born on 20/8/1898) to 1911, and the only George Hainsworth of anything like the correct age died in the first quarter of 1907 at 49 (Wharfedale 9a 122).

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 13 Mar 2011 14:25

Julie, just a point to bear in mind - sometimes in those days if a couple separated (divorce wasn't usually an option) a women would sometimes describe herself as a widow.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 13 Mar 2011 14:29

Putting this 1901 here, even if just for elimination:

FARRAR, Alfred Head Married M 46 1855 Railway Wagon Builder Brighouse Yorkshire
FARRAR, Mary H Wife Married F 48 1853 Mytholmroyd Yorkshire
>>HIMSWORTH, George Boarder Widower M 44 1857 Railway Wagon Builder Horbury Yorkshire

Registration District: Dewsbury Sub District: Thornhill Enumeration District: 9 Ecclesiastical Parish: Thornhill Lees Holy Innocents

Civil Parish: Thornhill

Address: 5, Albion Terrace, Thornhill County: Yorkshire (West riding)

Mike *

Mike * Report 13 Mar 2011 14:35

1901
George Brown - brother ?

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 13 Mar 2011 14:37

Sometimes to go backwards, can bring you forwards;

1871 England Census
about George A Hainsworth
Name: George A Hainsworth
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Hainsworth
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Hainsworth
Gender: Male
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: North Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 53
Household schedule number: 76
Household Members: Name Age
John Hainsworth 37 >>> Mechanic Fitter!
Elizabeth Hainsworth 37
George A Hainsworth 14
Jane A Hainsworth 12
Joshua Hainsworth 8
Ada Hainsworth 6
William Hainsworth 4
Samuel Hainsworth 2


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BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 13 Mar 2011 14:42

1861 England Census
about John W Ainsworth
Name: John W Ainsworth
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Ainsworth
Gender: Male
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Leeds
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: North Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 56
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 51
Household Members: Name Age
John W Ainsworth 29 >> Fitter
Elizabeth Ainsworth 24
Louisa Ainsworth 3
Jane A W Ainsworth 1


NO George!

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 13 Mar 2011 14:43

The 1901 Brown connection???

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1854 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Abson William Leeds 9b 326
>>>>>>>>>>Brown Elizabeth Leeds 9b 326
Dickinson Mary Leeds 9b 326
>>>>>>>>>>Hainsworth John Wright Leeds 9b 326

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 13 Mar 2011 14:53

1851 England Census
about John Ainsworth
Name: John Ainsworth
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joshua Ainsworth
Mother's Name: Jane Ainsworth
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Oldham
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Clarkesfield
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Oldham
Sub-registration district: Oldham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1g
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 128
Household Members: Name Age
Joshua Ainsworth 35
Jane Ainsworth 37
John Ainsworth 19


1861 England Census
about George Ainsworth
Name: George Ainsworth
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Oldham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Oldham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Oldham
Sub-registration district: Oldham Below Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 103
Household Members: Name Age
James Leach 24
Elizabeth Leach 22
Sarah A Leach 1
Joshua Ainsworth 45
Jane Ainsworth 46
George Ainsworth 5


BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 13 Mar 2011 15:05

Janes birth;

Births Jun 1859
WRIGHT Jane Ann Hainsworth Leeds 9b 373

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 13 Mar 2011 15:07

George's birth;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Sep 1855 (>99%)
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Wright George Hainsworth Leeds 9b 369

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BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 13 Mar 2011 15:22

Looks like George's little brother lived in the US;

U.S. Passport Applications, 1795-1925
about Samuel Hainsworth
Name: Samuel Hainsworth
Birth Date: Apr 1869
Birth Place: Leeds, England
Age: 52
Residence: Paterson, New Jersey
Passport Issue Date: 20 Feb 1922
Father Name: John Hainsworth
Father's Birth Location: England
Father's Residence: Deceased
Passport Includes a Photo: Yes

Julie

Julie Report 13 Mar 2011 23:32

Wonderful stuff - thanks to all of you!

Julie

Julie

Julie Report 15 Mar 2011 10:44

I now have a copy of George and Ada's marriage certificate. The wedding took place on 7/5/1887, and as I expected George's father is given as John Hainsworth, machine fitter. Unfortunately the certificate has thrown up another mystery: I was under the assumption that Ada was the daughter of James Sunderland, but on the certificate his name is given as JOHN Hainsworth (deceased), warp dresser. Yet one of the witnesses was Miranda Sunderland, who I thought had the same parents as Ada - James and Ann!

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 15 Mar 2011 10:53

This is probably Miranda;

1891 England Census
about Miranda Sunderland
Name: Miranda Sunderland
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Bingley, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Manningham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Bradford
Sub-registration district: Bradford West End
ED, institution, or vessel: 48
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah A Taylor 63
John Taylor 22
Miranda Sunderland 28
Caroline Hooper 36
Arthur Sunderland 12


Dee x