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Haferkorn /Hobson

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Stephen

Stephen Report 20 Feb 2011 22:17

I have been searching for Haferkorns for ages now.. I know a Percy Haferkorn married a Emily Hobson in 1935 Liverpol and had 2 children - Selina W born 1940 Wallasey and a boy Percy W. Does anyone know anything about what happened to these children ? Stephen Barlow

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 20 Feb 2011 22:25

arbitrarily -- please keep this thread and delete the other two identical posts (or whichever you decide ... perhaps you clicked too many times by accident, lol)

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 20 Feb 2011 22:27

Have you tried 192.com or BT online for Percy junior?

And could you give some kind of relationship as to why you are searching for them please...Just that not everyone wishes to be"found"for one reason or another.

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 20 Feb 2011 22:29

a rather distinctive name !

There are no death records for Percy or Emily to 2005

No marriages for children

possibilities: emigrated, changed surname

(Ancestry has transcribed the name on the marriage as 'Feroy'......)

Gee

Gee Report 20 Feb 2011 22:34

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Feroy Haferkorn (Percy)
Name: Feroy Haferkorn
Spouse Surname: Hobson
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1935
Registration district: Liverpool
Registration county (inferred): Lancashire
Volume Number: 8b
Page Number: 840
Find Spouse: Emily


Edit; Ive checked the GRO page and it has been mistranscribed!

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 20 Feb 2011 22:37

Births Dec 1908
Haferkorn Percy Plymouth 5b 220


1911 census

HAFERKORN PERCY 1909 2 Plymouth Devonshire

HAFERKORN WILLIAM 1867 44
HAFERKORN HANNAH 1876 35
HAFERKORN KATY 1893 18
HAFERKORN WILLIE 1895 16
HAFERKORN THOMAS 1896 15
HAFERKORN FLORENCE 1897 14
HAFERKORN NANCY 1910 1

Name: William Haferkorn
Death Registration Month/Year: 1919
Age at death (estimated): 52
Registration district: Plymouth
Inferred County: Devonshire
Volume: 5b
Page: 291

Name: Hannah Haferkorn
Death Registration Month/Year: 1933
Age at death (estimated): 57
Registration district: Plymouth
Inferred County: Devonshire
Volume: 5b
Page: 491

Name: Thomas Haferkorn
Death Registration Month/Year: 1945
Age at death (estimated): 50
Registration district: Bromsgrove
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 230

Name: William T W Haferkorn
Death Registration Month/Year: 1948
Age at death (estimated): 55
Registration district: Plymouth
Inferred County: Devonshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 591


you might find the marriages of the siblings etc ... basically I would assume that any Haferkorn anywhere in England is related !

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 20 Feb 2011 22:37

I have searched passenger lists and do not see anyone of that name.

Full 1911

HAFERKORN, William Head Married M 44 1867 Showman London
HAFERKORN, Hannah Wife Married
19 years F 35 1876 Liverpool
HAFERKORN, Katy Daughter Singel F 18 1893 Birmingham
HAFERKORN, Willie Son Singel M 16 1895 Gateshead
HAFERKORN, Thomas Son Singel M 15 1896 Cinderford
HAFERKORN, Florence Daughter F 14 1897 Gateshead
HAFERKORN, Percy Son M 2 1909 Plymouth
HAFERKORN, Nancy Daughter F 1 1910 Plymouth
SHARPE, Tomas Nephew M 9 1902 Nottingham
SHARPE, Thomas Nephew M 7 1904 Nottingham
MUTCHELL, Elizeabth Visitor Widow F 53 1858 Retiered Ireland

Registration District:
Plymouth Sub District:
Plymouth South West Enumeration District:
6 Parish:
Plymouth

Address:
110 Union St Plymouth County:
Devonshire

Gee

Gee Report 20 Feb 2011 22:44

Stephen. we need more info please


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AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 20 Feb 2011 22:44

seems Haferkorn's are from Germany

1881

Elizabeth ENGELKING Head M Female 38 Lpool, Lancashire, England Boarding House Keeper
Allene PEACH Mother W Female 63 Lpool, Lancashire, England Dependant
William HAFERKORN Boarder M Male 45 Germany Sculptor
Flora HAFERKORN Boarder M Female 43 Germany No Occupation
Elise HAFERKORN Boarder U Female 16 London, Middlesex, England No Occupation
Theodor HAFERKORN Boarder U Male 12 London, Middlesex, England Scholar
Maria S. ENGELKING Daur U Female 11 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Scholar
Eliza SILL Serv U Female 18 Lpool, Lancashire, England General Servant Dom


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Source Information:
Dwelling 18 Hilbre Street
Census Place Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341868
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3628 / 87
Page Number 17

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 20 Feb 2011 22:47

William Haferkorn

England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1836 — Germany
residence: Liverpool, Lancashire, England



Flora Haferkorn

England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1838 — Germany
residence: Liverpool, Lancashire, England



Theodor Haferkorn

England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1869 — London, Middlesex, England
residence: Liverpool, Lancashire, England



Elise Haferkorn

England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1865 — London, Middlesex, England
residence: Liverpool, Lancashire, England



Florence Haferkorn

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
parents: William Haferkorn, Annie



Selina Haferkorn

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: Stokesay, Shropshire, England
parents: William Haferkorn, Hannah Haferkorn

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 20 Feb 2011 22:48

William Haferkorn

England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1836 — Germany
residence: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1881
name: William Haferkorn
age: 45
gender: Male
birth year: 1836
birthplace: Germany
relationship to head of household: Boarder
marital condition: Married
profession / occupation: Sculptor
address: 18 Hilbre Street
census place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341868
the national archives reference: RG11
piece / folio: 3628 / 87
page number: 17

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 20 Feb 2011 22:49

Selina Haferkorn

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: Stokesay, Shropshire, England
parents: William Haferkorn, Hannah Haferkorn

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Selina Haferkorn
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 22 May 1898
baptism/christening place: Stokesay, Shropshire, England
father's name: William Haferkorn
mother's name: Hannah Haferkorn
indexing project (batch) number: I03152-3
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1702206

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 20 Feb 2011 22:54

There is a tree on Ancestry that has Florence Haferkorn 1897 Gateshead and others on ...Might be worth a message to the tree holder...

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 20 Feb 2011 22:54

Yes, obviously Haferkorn is a German name

That is one reason why I suggested a name change ... possibly during WW II ...

If Stephen were to obtain Percy Sr's birth certificate with an exact date of birth it might be possible to find a death record for a Percy with that date of birth (exact date of birth included on death records after 1969) and a surname that might be an adopted surname ... and check for a death of his wife and marriages of his children under the surname ...

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 20 Feb 2011 23:12

siblings' marriages ... maybe Stephen will return ... who knows ...

rather more useful than their baptisms ........... assuming he is looking for living family of these people ............


Name: Thomas Haferkorn
Spouse Surname: Barron - Emily
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1921
Registration district: Plymouth
Registration county (inferred): Devon
Volume Number: 5b
Page Number: 650


Name: William T W Haferkorn
Spouse Surname: Hand - Ivy BL
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1922
Registration district: Plymouth
Registration county (inferred): Devon
Volume Number: 5b
Page Number: 439

Name: Florence Haferkorn
Spouse Surname: Smith - Nathaniel
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1924
Registration district: Plymouth
Registration county (inferred): Devon
Volume Number: 5b
Page Number: 605

Name: Kate Haferkorn
Spouse Surname: Daniels - Woolf
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1924
Registration district: Chorlton
Registration county (inferred): Lancashire
Volume Number: 8c
Page Number: 2061


births to all those marriages should be findable at freebmd by the surnames of the two parents ........ not for posting here because too recent and may be living

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 20 Feb 2011 23:24

Will you two please stop the bickering,each of us have our own way of things and we all should at least try to get along on here.

I dislike posting on threads that become confrontational (Get enough of that in my "real"life.and thought we were doing ok here...Also it really is not nice for the poster to see this .....

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 20 Feb 2011 23:55

Precisely.....So thats that glitch out of the way..

But of course that info may become relevant at a later date...Or not.....But without the poster coming back we cant do any more here really can we...

Anyone seen me glasses/specs??
Oh yes...On top of me head ...
Just proof reading now........Hmmm ,seems ok,so I am gonna hit.."submit"..

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 20 Feb 2011 23:59

I've sent Stephen a message asking him to return

I feel the baptisms may be of interest to Stephen, if not well he can just ignore them - gives him an idea of where they spread out to

Stephen

Stephen Report 21 Feb 2011 10:14

I have returned .. many thanks for this glut of information. My wife's grandad was a Haferkorn - from a circus family originating from Germany. He was a bit of a mystery to the family until last year when we discovered relatives who we had no knowledge of at all - since then they have become good friends. We are keen to search further. I will go through the information, cross-check with what I have already and keep you posted. The main difficulty is finding relatives of the generation born in the first part of the 20th century. There should be more around as her grandad was one of 13 ! Thanks again Stephen BARLOW

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 21 Feb 2011 10:18

1911 census, you saw ?

HAFERKORN, William Head Married 44 1867 >>> Showman born London

who was your wife's granddad?

You saw the deaths and marriages I posted for the children in the 1911 census ?

marriages for four of them from a quick search ... any children should be transcribed at freebmd ...