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Stephen
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20 Feb 2011 22:17 |
I have been searching for Haferkorns for ages now.. I know a Percy Haferkorn married a Emily Hobson in 1935 Liverpol and had 2 children - Selina W born 1940 Wallasey and a boy Percy W. Does anyone know anything about what happened to these children ? Stephen Barlow
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chrissiex
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20 Feb 2011 22:25 |
arbitrarily -- please keep this thread and delete the other two identical posts (or whichever you decide ... perhaps you clicked too many times by accident, lol)
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FannyByGaslight
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20 Feb 2011 22:27 |
Have you tried 192.com or BT online for Percy junior?
And could you give some kind of relationship as to why you are searching for them please...Just that not everyone wishes to be"found"for one reason or another.
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chrissiex
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20 Feb 2011 22:29 |
a rather distinctive name !
There are no death records for Percy or Emily to 2005
No marriages for children
possibilities: emigrated, changed surname
(Ancestry has transcribed the name on the marriage as 'Feroy'......)
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20 Feb 2011 22:34 |
England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005 about Feroy Haferkorn (Percy) Name: Feroy Haferkorn Spouse Surname: Hobson Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1935 Registration district: Liverpool Registration county (inferred): Lancashire Volume Number: 8b Page Number: 840 Find Spouse: Emily
Edit; Ive checked the GRO page and it has been mistranscribed!
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chrissiex
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20 Feb 2011 22:37 |
Births Dec 1908 Haferkorn Percy Plymouth 5b 220
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HAFERKORN PERCY 1909 2 Plymouth Devonshire
HAFERKORN WILLIAM 1867 44 HAFERKORN HANNAH 1876 35 HAFERKORN KATY 1893 18 HAFERKORN WILLIE 1895 16 HAFERKORN THOMAS 1896 15 HAFERKORN FLORENCE 1897 14 HAFERKORN NANCY 1910 1
Name: William Haferkorn Death Registration Month/Year: 1919 Age at death (estimated): 52 Registration district: Plymouth Inferred County: Devonshire Volume: 5b Page: 291
Name: Hannah Haferkorn Death Registration Month/Year: 1933 Age at death (estimated): 57 Registration district: Plymouth Inferred County: Devonshire Volume: 5b Page: 491
Name: Thomas Haferkorn Death Registration Month/Year: 1945 Age at death (estimated): 50 Registration district: Bromsgrove Inferred County: Worcestershire Volume: 6c Page: 230
Name: William T W Haferkorn Death Registration Month/Year: 1948 Age at death (estimated): 55 Registration district: Plymouth Inferred County: Devonshire Volume: 7a Page: 591
you might find the marriages of the siblings etc ... basically I would assume that any Haferkorn anywhere in England is related !
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FannyByGaslight
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20 Feb 2011 22:37 |
I have searched passenger lists and do not see anyone of that name.
Full 1911
HAFERKORN, William Head Married M 44 1867 Showman London HAFERKORN, Hannah Wife Married 19 years F 35 1876 Liverpool HAFERKORN, Katy Daughter Singel F 18 1893 Birmingham HAFERKORN, Willie Son Singel M 16 1895 Gateshead HAFERKORN, Thomas Son Singel M 15 1896 Cinderford HAFERKORN, Florence Daughter F 14 1897 Gateshead HAFERKORN, Percy Son M 2 1909 Plymouth HAFERKORN, Nancy Daughter F 1 1910 Plymouth SHARPE, Tomas Nephew M 9 1902 Nottingham SHARPE, Thomas Nephew M 7 1904 Nottingham MUTCHELL, Elizeabth Visitor Widow F 53 1858 Retiered Ireland Registration District: Plymouth Sub District: Plymouth South West Enumeration District: 6 Parish: Plymouth Address: 110 Union St Plymouth County: Devonshire
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20 Feb 2011 22:44 |
Stephen. we need more info please
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AnnCardiff
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20 Feb 2011 22:44 |
seems Haferkorn's are from Germany
1881
Elizabeth ENGELKING Head M Female 38 Lpool, Lancashire, England Boarding House Keeper Allene PEACH Mother W Female 63 Lpool, Lancashire, England Dependant William HAFERKORN Boarder M Male 45 Germany Sculptor Flora HAFERKORN Boarder M Female 43 Germany No Occupation Elise HAFERKORN Boarder U Female 16 London, Middlesex, England No Occupation Theodor HAFERKORN Boarder U Male 12 London, Middlesex, England Scholar Maria S. ENGELKING Daur U Female 11 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Scholar Eliza SILL Serv U Female 18 Lpool, Lancashire, England General Servant Dom
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 18 Hilbre Street Census Place Liverpool, Lancashire, England Family History Library Film 1341868 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 3628 / 87 Page Number 17
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AnnCardiff
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20 Feb 2011 22:47 |
William Haferkorn England and Wales Census, 1881 birth: 1836 — Germany residence: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Flora Haferkorn England and Wales Census, 1881 birth: 1838 — Germany residence: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Theodor Haferkorn England and Wales Census, 1881 birth: 1869 — London, Middlesex, England residence: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Elise Haferkorn England and Wales Census, 1881 birth: 1865 — London, Middlesex, England residence: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Florence Haferkorn England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 residence: Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England parents: William Haferkorn, Annie
Selina Haferkorn England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 residence: Stokesay, Shropshire, England parents: William Haferkorn, Hannah Haferkorn
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AnnCardiff
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20 Feb 2011 22:48 |
William Haferkorn England and Wales Census, 1881 birth: 1836 — Germany residence: Liverpool, Lancashire, England record title: England and Wales Census, 1881 name: William Haferkorn age: 45 gender: Male birth year: 1836 birthplace: Germany relationship to head of household: Boarder marital condition: Married profession / occupation: Sculptor address: 18 Hilbre Street census place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England record type: Household family history library film: 1341868 the national archives reference: RG11 piece / folio: 3628 / 87 page number: 17
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AnnCardiff
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20 Feb 2011 22:49 |
Selina Haferkorn England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 residence: Stokesay, Shropshire, England parents: William Haferkorn, Hannah Haferkorn record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 name: Selina Haferkorn gender: Female baptism/christening date: 22 May 1898 baptism/christening place: Stokesay, Shropshire, England father's name: William Haferkorn mother's name: Hannah Haferkorn indexing project (batch) number: I03152-3 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 1702206
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FannyByGaslight
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20 Feb 2011 22:54 |
There is a tree on Ancestry that has Florence Haferkorn 1897 Gateshead and others on ...Might be worth a message to the tree holder...
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chrissiex
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20 Feb 2011 22:54 |
Yes, obviously Haferkorn is a German name
That is one reason why I suggested a name change ... possibly during WW II ...
If Stephen were to obtain Percy Sr's birth certificate with an exact date of birth it might be possible to find a death record for a Percy with that date of birth (exact date of birth included on death records after 1969) and a surname that might be an adopted surname ... and check for a death of his wife and marriages of his children under the surname ...
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chrissiex
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20 Feb 2011 23:12 |
siblings' marriages ... maybe Stephen will return ... who knows ...
rather more useful than their baptisms ........... assuming he is looking for living family of these people ............
Name: Thomas Haferkorn Spouse Surname: Barron - Emily Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1921 Registration district: Plymouth Registration county (inferred): Devon Volume Number: 5b Page Number: 650
Name: William T W Haferkorn Spouse Surname: Hand - Ivy BL Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1922 Registration district: Plymouth Registration county (inferred): Devon Volume Number: 5b Page Number: 439
Name: Florence Haferkorn Spouse Surname: Smith - Nathaniel Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1924 Registration district: Plymouth Registration county (inferred): Devon Volume Number: 5b Page Number: 605
Name: Kate Haferkorn Spouse Surname: Daniels - Woolf Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1924 Registration district: Chorlton Registration county (inferred): Lancashire Volume Number: 8c Page Number: 2061
births to all those marriages should be findable at freebmd by the surnames of the two parents ........ not for posting here because too recent and may be living
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl
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FannyByGaslight
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20 Feb 2011 23:24 |
Will you two please stop the bickering,each of us have our own way of things and we all should at least try to get along on here.
I dislike posting on threads that become confrontational (Get enough of that in my "real"life.and thought we were doing ok here...Also it really is not nice for the poster to see this .....
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FannyByGaslight
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20 Feb 2011 23:55 |
Precisely.....So thats that glitch out of the way..
But of course that info may become relevant at a later date...Or not.....But without the poster coming back we cant do any more here really can we...
Anyone seen me glasses/specs?? Oh yes...On top of me head ... Just proof reading now........Hmmm ,seems ok,so I am gonna hit.."submit"..
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AnnCardiff
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20 Feb 2011 23:59 |
I've sent Stephen a message asking him to return
I feel the baptisms may be of interest to Stephen, if not well he can just ignore them - gives him an idea of where they spread out to
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Stephen
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21 Feb 2011 10:14 |
I have returned .. many thanks for this glut of information. My wife's grandad was a Haferkorn - from a circus family originating from Germany. He was a bit of a mystery to the family until last year when we discovered relatives who we had no knowledge of at all - since then they have become good friends. We are keen to search further. I will go through the information, cross-check with what I have already and keep you posted. The main difficulty is finding relatives of the generation born in the first part of the 20th century. There should be more around as her grandad was one of 13 ! Thanks again Stephen BARLOW
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chrissiex
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21 Feb 2011 10:18 |
1911 census, you saw ?
HAFERKORN, William Head Married 44 1867 >>> Showman born London
who was your wife's granddad?
You saw the deaths and marriages I posted for the children in the 1911 census ?
marriages for four of them from a quick search ... any children should be transcribed at freebmd ...
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