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It was fun Paul,
Anytime you need help know where I am,

Please let us know if we were right.

Speak soon

Kirsty

Congrats, nice result.

Get your certificates to confirm, Dorothy and Mary Jane could not be sisters if Dorothy was formerly Preece?

best regards Deborah

1901 could be Mary Jane as i havent yet found a Mary
Name: Jane Patrick
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: St John, Worcestershire, England

Civil Parish: Great Malvern
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Name: Sarah Patrick
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Blackheath, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Great Malvern
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England


Name: George Whatmore
Age: 75
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: St Johns, Worcestershire, England

Civil Parish: Great Malvern
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Worcestershire

Was she Williams sister ,both William and Dorothy died and Mary was bringing your dad up as her child. Then she met and married William Usher

perhaps not coul this be William in 1891
Name: William H Patrick
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George W
Mother's Name: Emily
Gender: Male
Where born: St Georges, Worcestershire, England

Civil Parish: South Claines
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Ancestry is taking for ever to open so this is the household

Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Lewis 68 --m-in-law
Benjamin Patrick 6
Elsie M Patrick 4
Emily Patrick 38
Emily T Patrick 16
Florence E Patrick 2
George W Patrick 38
Lilian A Patrick 14
Samuel G Patrick 12
William H Patrick 8

Janice, Thank you

can you please look up Mary Jane Patrick b. 1891/92

I'll tell you why when you come back

Thanks.

Paul.

I have posted one for Jane in 1901on previous page which i think could be Mary Jane. I see above that post you have her birth index sept quarter 1891 so she wouldn't be on that census

Hi again,

I think, Paul, you should get Mary and William's marriage certificate and that will give you hopefully the name of Mary's dad, and how old she was roughly at the time of the marriage.

And get the death certificates for William and Dorothy. If they are correct they will give you the name ( hopefully ) of the informant.

It certainly looks like Mary Jane was a relative of you Dad, a possible aunty. It has been really great working with you. Please keep us informed.


ValT

Thanks Val

Which is the best site for ordering certificates on-line?

Paul.

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates

never pay more then £7.00 per cert

Thanx for message

Thanx Kirsty

UPDATE!!!!!!

Just to let you know where I am.......

I have sent off for the following certificates.......

Mary Jane Patrick - birth certificate

William Henry Usher - Mary Jane Patrick - marriage certificate

Dorothy Patrick - death certificate


I'll let you all know how it goes.


Oh, and thanks again!!

Paul.

Thanks Paul for the up date ,will keep the thread bookmaked.

I have just looked at the 1891 census.

On the occupation of Sarah Lewis it says she is an "earth transferer".

Does anyone know what an "earth transferer" is???


Thanks


Paul

Hi Paul,

Earth Transferer seems to do with Potters/Potteries etc.

Thanks for the update.

Looking forward to the next stage in the saga.

Val

Thanks for that Val. That would make sense then!!

My wife seems to recall something about Worcestershire earthenware.

We're looking forward to the next stage in the saga too!!!!

Paul. x

Any news yet?????

Kirsty

Hi Paul,

have you received the certificates yet?

Val

Hi Paul

I'm looking forward to the update too!

Christine x

Me too!!!