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Census look-up - additional search please!!

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Vanessa

Vanessa Report 3 Jul 2010 05:40

I have this family in 1911 but cant find them prior to this - I think mistranscription may be hounding my efforts but I havent been able to crack it:

ENSOR, Annie 1897 14 M Aston
ENSOR, George 1872 39 M Aston
ENSOR, George 1905 6 M Aston
ENSOR, Kate 1871 40 F Aston
ENSOR, Mary Ann 1911 0 F Aston
ENSOR, William 1898 13 M Aston

Any help would be much appreciated.

Many thanks
Vanessa

>>>>>>>EDIT 12.07.2010: George Ensor b 02.05.1905 - birth cert gives parents as George Ensor, Pearl button Maker & Susannah DuRose. Living at 27 Moorson St, Birmingham

I have found the marriage ref for George & Susannah - Sep 1891, but believe there may be a skeleton in this closet!! Can anyone help find Susannah in 1901 or 1911 please?

Much appreciated

Penny

Penny Report 3 Jul 2010 05:49

what was George's wifes name? (Sorry, its Kate)

Trying to work out when they were married- cant spot it

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 3 Jul 2010 06:33

Hi Minnie - I have looked on FREEBMD and I couldnt find the marriage either! I searched just using George and couldnt find one to any variation of Kate - Kath, Cath etc!

K

K Report 3 Jul 2010 06:54

I can't see the family for reference in 1911. Are they transcribed as you listed them?

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 3 Jul 2010 06:54

I have to go out for a few hours now but will check in later in the hope somebody can trace the family.

Thanks in advance for any help you might be able to give.

Vanessa x

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 3 Jul 2010 06:55

Hi K

Yes, I did the free search on 1911 census on FMP. Looking for any Ensor living with George Ensor!

Thanks for taking the time to help
Vanessa x

K

K Report 3 Jul 2010 07:00

Thanks so this is the whole record - I wonder if Kate's mother was Maria Dobson living with them?


1911 census - household transcription
Person: ENSOR, George
Address: 56 Lynton Road Aston


ENSOR, George Head Married M 39 1872 Pearl Worker Birmingham Warwickshire VIEW
ENSOR, Kate Wife Married
16 years F 40 1871 Birmingham Warwickshire VIEW
ENSOR, Annie Daughter M 14 1897 Press Worker Aston Birmingham VIEW
ENSOR, William Son M 13 1898 School Aston Birmingham VIEW
ENSOR, George Son M 6 1905 Aston Birmingham VIEW
ENSOR, Mary Ann Daughter F 0 (2 MONTHS) 1911 Aston Birmingham VIEW
DODSON, Mary Ann Boarder Widow F 70 1841 Shipton on Stour Worcestershire VIEW
DODSON, Maria Boarder Single F 25 1886 Solderer Aston Birmingham VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
18305 Reference:
RG14PN18305 RG78PN1102 RD385 SD4 ED36 SN386

Registration District:
Aston Sub District:
Aston Manor Enumeration District:
36 Parish:
Aston Manor

Address:
56 Lynton Road Aston County:
Warwickshire

Astra

Astra Report 3 Jul 2010 07:00

From looking at the original on 1911 and the ages of the children I think that this is maybe a second 'marriage' for one or both of them. Living with them as boarders in 1911 are Mary Ann Dodson and Maria Dodson


ENSOR, George Head Married M 39 1872 Pearl Worker Birmingham Warwickshire VIEW
ENSOR, Kate Wife Married
16 years F 40 1871 Birmingham Warwickshire VIEW
ENSOR, Annie Daughter M 14 1897 Press Worker Aston Birmingham VIEW
ENSOR, William Son M 13 1898 School Aston Birmingham VIEW
ENSOR, George Son M 6 1905 Aston Birmingham VIEW
ENSOR, Mary Ann Daughter F 0 (2 MONTHS) 1911 Aston Birmingham VIEW
DODSON, Mary Ann Boarder Widow F 70 1841 Shipton on Stour Worcestershire VIEW
DODSON, Maria Boarder Single F 25 1886 Solderer Aston Birmingham VIEW

Registration District:
Aston Sub District:
Aston Manor Enumeration District:
36 Parish:
Aston Manor

Address:
56 Lynton Road Aston County:
Warwickshire

this is them in 1901. There is Catherine and William and Annie

Maria Dodson
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Francis
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Female
Where born: Aston, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Aston Manor
Ecclesiastical parish: Aston Brook St Mary
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Aston Manor
ED, institution, or vessel: 67
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 85
Household Members:
Name Age
Francis Dodson 62
Mary A Dodson 60
Thomas Dodson 24
>>Catharine Dodson 28>>>>Married
Louisa Dodson 17
Maria Dodson 16
Charles Dodson 11>>>>>Grandson
George Dodson 28>>>>>>Single Pearl Worker???So has he been bundled in under the family name when he and Catherine and the children should be 'Ensor'??? Or is he a red herring and Kate eventually moved in with George Ensor later.
>>Annie Dodson 5>>>>Grandchild
>>William Dodson 4>>>>Grandchild


William appears to be registered as Ensor if this is his registration

Births Dec 1897 (>99%)
Ensor William Aston 6d 403


Looking back it seems that Dodson was Kate's maiden name

Cate Dolson
[Cate Dodson]
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Francis
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Aston, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Aston
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address: No 3 Back No 18 Wharf
Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Aston Manor
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Francis Dolson 43
Mary Ann Dolson 40
Amelia Dolson 19
Hary Dolson 17
John Dolson 14
>>Cate Dolson 10
Charles Dolson 7
Thomas Dolson 3
Mary Ann Dolson


Did they eventually marry?

Marriages Mar 1933 (95%)
Branch Nellie M Cain Birmingham 6d 259
CAIN James H Branch Birmingham 6d 259
>>Dodson Katherine Ensor Birmingham 6d 259
>>Ensor George Dodson Birmingham 6d 259

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 3 Jul 2010 23:15

Hi Astra

Thank you soo much for taking the time to look at these for me. I think I only checked for marriages as far as 1930 - just my luck it was 1933! I would say almost definitely that that is them.

I saw that birth reg for William too but couldnt find one to tie in for Annie - will have another look now and see what I can find.

Once again thank you for your help. Now to find George in 1891!! Can anyone help?

Vanessa x

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 4 Jul 2010 01:08

Try as I might, with my limited access, I cannot find George Ensor (1872) in the 1891 census - would appreciate any further help!

Thanks in advance
Vanessa

K

K Report 4 Jul 2010 05:51

1891

Name: George Ensor
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Silas
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter and St Paul
Town: Aston
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Aston Manor
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Silas Ensor 47
Ann Ensor 44
George Ensor 19
Lizzie Ensor 15
Leah Ensor 15
Flossy Ensor 10
Lydia Ensor 8

They all worked making Pearl Buttons and were born in Birmingham

1881
Name: George Ensor
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Silas
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address: 2 CT 2 House
Education:

Employment status:

View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Silas Ensor 38
Ann Ensor 36
William Ensor 18
Alice Ensor 16
Harriett Ensor 13
George Ensor 9
Lizzie Ensor 6
Leah Ensor 4
Florence E. Ensor 9 mnths

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 4 Jul 2010 06:43

Hi K

Thanks so much again! Where did u find that? I used the free search on FMP using George Ensor 1872 +/- 2yrs and nothing! Im doing something wrong somewhere. Also searched for any ensor living with george ensor!!

Sooo frustrating but so grateful to you.

Thanks
Vanessa

K

K Report 4 Jul 2010 06:51

I was using Ancestry and it came up straightaway and was not mistranscribed - do you need early censuses for Silas and family?

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 4 Jul 2010 08:07

OOOOhhhh yes please k, if you dont mind that would be very useful!

Thanks so much
Vanessa x

K

K Report 4 Jul 2010 08:25

1871

Name: Silas Ensor
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Household schedule number: 200
Household Members:
Name Age
Silas Ensor 28
Ann Ensor 25
William Ensor 8
Allice Ensor 5
Harriett Ensor 3
Frederick Ensor 1
Maryann Poole 22 Boarder

1851

Name: Silas Ensor
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Silas
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View image

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 56
Household Members:
Name Age
Silas Ensor 43 b Birmingham Pearl Button Turner
Elizabeth Ensor 42 b Sutton Coalfield
Frederick Ensor 18
Henry Ensor 13
Phoebe Ensor 9
Silas Ensor 7
Elizabeth Ensor 5
Charles Ensor 1

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 4 Jul 2010 08:27

Thanks Colin, nice to know i havent totally lost the plot!

Vanessa

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 4 Jul 2010 08:30

Thanks for your continued input K! Got a lot to research and only a year to do it, so the help of all is much appreciated!

Vanessa x

K

K Report 4 Jul 2010 08:32

I can't see Silas and family post 1891 althougth Silas does still appear to be alive in 1911

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 4 Jul 2010 08:40

This all gives me so much to work on - I really cant thank you enough!
Vanessa x

P.S Please feel free to add ;0)

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 13 Jul 2010 05:08

n - any help would be very gratefully received!

Thanks in advance
Vanessa