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Luan
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6 Feb 2011 11:35 |
Please help people if you can..... Does anyone out ther have any idea about my GG Grandma's earler years as she was adopted in possibly the areas of Bow Bell,Camberwell,Bermondsey. She was born in 1882. Now she was adopted by a Sidney Egginton and Frances Martha Egginton formerly Tyler and then they named my GG Grandmother Frances Martha. Does any one know anything about these records. I got all info about her from when she got married to my GG Grandad Frederick Parr Heath in 1905. Many thanks....this is a tough one.
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KathleenBell
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6 Feb 2011 11:45 |
There was no formal adoption until 1927 so there would probably be no records regarding your GG Grandma.
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Astra
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6 Feb 2011 11:46 |
Marriages Dec 1880 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dawson Isabella St. Geo. East 1c 900 Egginton Sidney St George in the East 1c 900 POTTER John St.Geo.East 1c 900 Tyler Fanny Martha St Geo.East 1c 900
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Astra
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6 Feb 2011 11:48 |
Fanny Egginton Age: 26 Estimated birth year: abt 1855 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Sidney Egginton Gender: Female Where born: Holborn, Middlesex, England Street address: 37 Batty St Condition as to marriage: Married Registration district: St George In The East Sub-registration district: St Mary ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Sidney Egginton 21 Fanny Egginton 26
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Luan
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6 Feb 2011 11:49 |
ASTRA.......What does it mean what you have posted??? Regarding marriages.
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Luan
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6 Feb 2011 11:50 |
Thankyou Kath. I keep wondering if she came from a workhouse or something in those days.
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KathleenBell
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6 Feb 2011 11:53 |
The details that Astra posted are the reference numbers that you can use to order the marriage certificate of the couple who adopted her.
St. George in the East is the registration district. 1c is the volume number 900 is the page number.
You can order from the General Register Office (GRO) here:-
www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp
Kath. x
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BatMansDaughter
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6 Feb 2011 11:53 |
HI Luan,
this Sidney is also a printer born in the same place as the Sidney in 1881........ so I think it is the same man;
1901 England Census about Sidney Eggington Name: Sidney Eggington Age: 41 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Elizabeth J Eggington Gender: Male Where born: Bermondsey, London, England Civil Parish: Camberwell Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke County/Island: London Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Camberwell Sub-registration district: St George ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 263 Household Members: Name Age Sidney Eggington 41 Elizabeth J Eggington 35 Edith M Eggington 14 Sidney W Eggington 3 Rosetta E Eggington 1 Florence J A Eggington 1 Month Dee x
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Luan
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6 Feb 2011 11:58 |
Kath, I know it was Sidney ang Fanny Martha who adopted her. I don't understand who Dawson Isabella is or Jonh Potter.
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Luan
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6 Feb 2011 11:59 |
Thankyou Batmansdaughter, I think Sidney had married twice as he was def married to a Fanny Martha formerley Tyler.
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KathleenBell
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6 Feb 2011 12:01 |
Isabella Dawson and John Potter are nothing to do with your family. They are just the other couple on the same page of the marriage register. Sometimes there are two couples and sometimes there are 4 couples all on the same page.
Kath. x
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Astra
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6 Feb 2011 12:01 |
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EGGINTON, Sidney Head Married M 51 1860 Compositor London Bermondsey VIEW EGGINTON, Elizabeth Jane Wife Married 16 years F 45 1866 London City VIEW EGGINTON, Sidney Arthur Son M 13 1898 School London Clerkenwell VIEW EGGINTON, Florence Ivy Daughter F 10 1901 School London Camberwell VIEW EGGINTON, Elzabeth Grace Daughter F 8 1903 School London Camberwell VIEW
Address: 82 Harris Street S E County: London
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BatMansDaughter
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6 Feb 2011 12:05 |
Hi Luan,
This looks like a son born to Sidney and Fanny;
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Sidney Alfred Egginton Name: Sidney Alfred Egginton Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1882 Baptism Date: 11 Feb 1882 Father's name: Sidney Egginton >>> Printer. Mother's name: Fanny Martha Egginton Parish or Poor Law Union: Clerkenwell St John Borough: Islington An a daughter;
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Alice Maud Egginton Name: Alice Maud Egginton Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1884 Baptism Date: 28 Sep 1884 Father's name: Sidney Egginton Mother's name: Fanny Martha Egginton Parish or Poor Law Union: Clerkenwell St Paul Borough: Islington
I also saw this, but no baptism;
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Fanny Martha Egginton Name: Fanny Martha Egginton Year of Registration: 1881 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: St George in The East County: London, Middlesex Volume: 1c Page: 394
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1891 England Census about Fanny Eggerinton Name: Fanny Eggerinton Age: 9 Estimated birth year: abt 1882 Relation: Boarder Gender: Female Where born: End End, London, England Civil Parish: Kidderminster Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Town: Wribbenhall County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Kidderminster Sub-registration district: Kidderminster ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Mary Hawkes 60 Fanny Eggerinton 9 Maud Eggerinton 6 <<<<<<<< is this Alice Maud??? Leonard Robinson 4
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Astra
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6 Feb 2011 12:09 |
EGGINTON, Martha Wife Married F 30 1861 Holborn London VIEW EGGINTON, Edith Daughter F 4 1887 Holborn London VIEW
Civil Parish: Clerkenwell Municipal Borough: Address: 2, St James Street, Clerkenwell, London County: London So if this is Fanny Martha in 1891 then where is Sidney and where are the other children?
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BatMansDaughter
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6 Feb 2011 12:16 |
Uuummm............
1891 England Census about George Egginton Name: George Egginton Age: 29 Estimated birth year: abt 1862 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: London, England Civil Parish: Clerkenwell Ecclesiastical parish: St Johns County/Island: London Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Holborn Sub-registration district: St James Clerkenwell ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Sarah A Collins 53 Edward A Collins 25 Frederick Purrier 31 William Sutton 27 John Stevens 32 George Egginton 29 >>>>>>>>> PRINTER, single Matilda Keye 22 I wonder if this is Sidney???
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BatMansDaughter
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6 Feb 2011 12:24 |
I think this maybe Fanny/Martha;
1901 England Census about Fanny Eggenton Name: Fanny Eggenton Age: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1861 Relation: Lodger Gender: Female Where born: Holborn Civil Parish: Mile End New Town Ecclesiastical parish: St Olaves County/Island: London Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Whitechapel Sub-registration district: Mile End New Town ED, institution, or vessel: Salvation Army Shelter Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 1 Married, Cloth Cutter
No others with her with the surname Egginton
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Astra
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6 Feb 2011 12:24 |
Could well be. His father was called George. I wonder if Frances Martha was his child from an affair?
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BatMansDaughter
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6 Feb 2011 12:27 |
Ok,
so going back to your G G Grandma, her marriage was in the same area as she was in 1891;
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1905 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EGGINTON Fanny Martha Kidderminster 6c 349 HEATH Frederick Parr Kidderminster 6c 349
So it looks like the 1891 census was correct and she was with her sister Alice MAUD.
Dee x
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BatMansDaughter
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6 Feb 2011 12:28 |
Here's the sisters marriage;
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Jun 1906 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CLARKE William Thomas G Kidderminster 6c 377 >>>>>>>>>Eggington Alice Maud Kidderminster 6c 377 Elcock Frances Kidderminster 6c 377 NEAL Harry George Kidderminster 6c 377 NEAL Henry George Kidderminster 6c 377 NEALE Harry George Kidderminster 6c 377 NEALE Henry George Kidderminster 6c 377
Now she either married William Thomas G Clarke or Mr H G Neal/ Neale.
Dee x
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BatMansDaughter
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6 Feb 2011 12:34 |
Your G G Grandmother in 1901??
1901 England Census about Fanny Aglinton Name: Fanny Aglinton Age: 19 Estimated birth year: abt 1882 Relation: Boarder Gender: Female Where born: Kensington, London, England Civil Parish: Kidderminster Ecclesiastical parish: Kidderminster St Mary County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Kidderminster Sub-registration district: Kidderminster ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 53 Household Members: Name Age Louisa Cole 50 Fanny Aglinton 19 Daniel Booton 49 ????????????
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