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7 Sep 2009 13:46 |
My grandfather sisters & mother were deserted by father (also Frank Eade) in 1880 and spent years in the Leavesden Institute. I supect father fled the country and have traced him on a sailing census of 1880, his name and right year from Southampton to Sydney. I can't prove his age but wife was born 1846 so I have tried around that year and although I have found a record I can't get the info. I am stumped. Any ideas you bright ones. Claire
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7 Sep 2009 13:56 |
found this death in NSW Australia....
Reg.No./Year .. 13554/1899 Name .. EADE FRANK Father .. THEOPHILUS Mother .. CAROLINE District .. HILLGROVE
have you found your Frank on census records ? Do you know his parents names ?
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7 Sep 2009 14:02 |
who did Frank marry, & when ?
What were his childrens name & dates of birth.
More info please...
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7 Sep 2009 15:13 |
Does anyone know where Leavesden Institute is please?
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A google search is only finding Leavesden Lunatic Asylum near Abbots Langley Herts. That can't be the one because all the inmates listed there in the 1881 census appear to be lunatics. And there are no Eades there at that time.
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8 Sep 2009 12:30 |
This is the only Frank Eade (spelt Ede) shown as an inmate I can find on the 1881 census, but no mother with them, and not Leavesden Institute.....is this yours??
1881 England Census about Frank Ede Name: Frank Ede Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relation: Inmate Gender: Male Where born: Southwark, Surrey, England Civil parish: Southwark St John Horsleydown County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: "St Olaves Union Workhouse" Education:
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View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: St Olave Southwark Sub-registration district: St John Horsleydown ED, institution, or vessel: St Olaves Union Workhouse Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Renald Mc Donald 2 Caroline Ward 31 Edward Ward Emily Webb 27 Beatrice Webb 4 Henry Webb 1 Mary Johnson 30 William Johnson 4 Mary Johnson 2 Catherine Johnson 1 Margaret Murphy 52 Olly Partridge 17 Mary Ann Roberts 52 Edward Roberts 2 Mary Mills 33 John Mills 11 Emily Saxby 19 Emily Maidment 24 Sarah Martlew 43 Alice Martlew 4 William Martlew Alice Laybourn 3 George Gascoigne 6 Charles Gettins 10 Thomas Edwd. Gettins 5 Kate Gilham 4 Edward Tally 6 Thomas Poynter 8 Daniel Mahoney 8 James Mahoney 4 Walter Davis 6 Emma Field 1 Margaret Burton James Beardon 47 Joseph Burtenshaw 56 William Fletcher 60 George James 63 William White 55 Charles Whitehead 58 Patrick Normyle 8 William Normyle 4 Violet King 1 Phoebe Abbott 9 Mary Grace Winks 35 Emma Winks 9 Frederick Winks 8 Percy Winks 4 Gertrude Winks 2 Ada Ede 11 <<<<<<<<< Frederick Ede 10 <<<<<<< Leonard Ede 9 <<<<<<<<<<< Frank Ede 5 <<<<<<<<<<<<< Elizabeth Shepherd Edward Smith 1 Edward Phillpot 38 George Marchant 67 John Rummery 36 George Obery 17 Robert Smith 36 Patrick Lyons 22 George Clarke Carter 27 Thomas Cottle 36
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8 Sep 2009 14:13 |
From Lilian
I have absolutley no knowledge of Frank snr 's background only learnt of his existence when I obtained Frank Jnr & Clara Larwood marriage certificate but since then i have learnt he ditched them and ran off.
I have sisters for Frank jnr only, and have partially taced them. Sorry wans't on line didn't expect such a quick come back. Your NSW looks interesting I am clutching at straws but will see where it takes me. Claire
From Lilian
Frank Eade Snr married Elizabeth . hade Frank jnr c1843, Daisy c 1877 & Sarah c 1879. Daisy was taken into the Uncles home in Norfolk when she was about 14 He was Edward Peck or Peak according to records but a stone marble mason on all. I checked back prior to child being with them i and in the 1861 census he had an Elizabeth Parlett (14 ) sister-in-law living there with his wife Sarah Ann. I wonder if she is Franks bride to be. Sarah whent to an aunt but dissappears. A conundrum. Claire
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8 Sep 2009 14:25 |
These look like the Workhouse children with their parents in 1871 - father's name Frederick not Frank?
Name: Ada R Ede Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Frederick S Mother's Name: Harriett Gender: Female Where born: Bermondsey, Surrey, England Civil parish: Bermondsey Ecclesiastical parish: St James County/Island: Surrey Country: England Registration district: St Olave Southwark Sub-registration district: St James Bermondsey ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Household schedule number: 359 Household Members: Name Age Frederick S Ede 28 Clerk to Wool Broker Harriett Ede 25 Ada R Ede 2 Frederick E Ede 5 months EDIT
Workhouse children are the wrong family.
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8 Sep 2009 14:49 |
Lilian
I am just thinking -as you don't know Frank Seniors age. Do you have Frank junior's birth certificate? Or any of his siblings? What other references do you have to the father's name other than Frank juniors marriage certificate?
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8 Sep 2009 15:40 |
I'm getting confused with this thread. So I'm starting with 1901 and working backwards!
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8 Sep 2009 15:41 |
Marriage of Frank Eade and Clara Larwood:
Marriages Sep 1896 (>99%) Brooks Henry St. Geo. East 1c 571 Scan available - click to view EADE Frank St. Geo. East 1c 571 Scan available - click to view LARWOOD Clara Hannah St. Geo. East 1c 571 Scan available - click to view Sherwood Frances Jane St. Geo. East 1c 571 Scan available - click to view
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8 Sep 2009 15:41 |
Frank and Clara in 1901:
1901 England Census about Frank Eade Name: Frank Eade Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Clara H Gender: Male Where born: Bethnal Green, London, England Civil parish: Bethnal Green Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Bethnal Green Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green South ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 105 Household Members: Name Age Frank Eade 28 Clara H Eade 29 Elizabeth C Eade 2 Ada E Eade 8 months View Original Record
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8 Sep 2009 15:45 |
Clara born Norwich, Norfolk so I now see where the Norfolk link comes in.
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8 Sep 2009 16:00 |
Here is Daisy in 1891 where she is niece of Edard but looking at his age perhaps she is Grand Niece.
Name: Daisy Eade Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation: Niece Gender: Female Where born: London, England Civil parish: Thetford St Cuthbert Ecclesiastical parish: Thetford St Cuthbert and St Mary County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Thetford Sub-registration district: Thetford ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Edward J Peek 65 Sarah Ann Peek 65 Daisy Eade 14
I still can't see the family in 1881 - certainly no Daisy coming up on ancestry.co.uk
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8 Sep 2009 16:13 |
This is Edward Peck and Sarah's marriage:
Marriages Dec 1850 (>99%) Lockett Edmund Thetford 13 823 Parlett Sarah Ann Thetford 13 823 Scan available - click to view Peck Edward Jeremiah Thetford 13 823 Scan available - click to view WARD Ann Thetford 13 823 Scan available - click to view
Now I see the Parlett link.
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8 Sep 2009 16:25 |
Edward and Sarah in 1861 with children including Elizabeth Parlett, Sarah's sister:
1861 England Census about Edward H Peck Name: Edward H Peck Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852 Relation: Son Father's Name: Edward Mother's Name: Sarah Ann Gender: Male Where born: Thetford, Norfolk, England Civil parish: Thetford St Cuthbert Town: Thetford County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Thetford Sub-registration district: Thetford ED, institution, or vessel: 6f Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 205 Household Members: Name Age Edward Peck 35 Sarah Ann Peck 35 Edward H Peck 9 Emma Peck 7 William George Peck 3 Elizabeth Parlett 14 View Original Record
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8 Sep 2009 16:29 |
I don't know whether there is a link but there is a marriage between an Elizabeth Parlett and a Samuel Eade in London:
Marriages Dec 1871 (>99%) EADE Samuel Pancras 1b 205 Scan available - click to view Ormandy Henry James Pancras 1b 205 Scan available - click to view Parlett Elizabeth Pancras 1b 205 Scan available - click to view Routledge Margaret Ellen Pancras 1b 205 Scan available - click to view
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8 Sep 2009 16:31 |
Which I think leads us to this in 1881:
1881 England Census about Samuel Eade Name: Samuel Eade Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Civil parish: Islington County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 4 Frederick St (South St) Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Organ Builder Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Islington West ED, institution, or vessel: 44 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Samuel Eade 36 Elizabeth Eade 35 Frank Eade 9 Alice Eade 7 Florence Eade 5 Sarah Eade 2 View Original Record
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8 Sep 2009 16:33 |
The only problem being that this Frank was born according to the census in Chelsea not Bethnal Green.
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8 Sep 2009 16:44 |
Funnily enough there is also a Samuel Eade living at Dickinson Street St Pancras who is also an organ builder. He is a boarder but down as married:
1881 England Census about Samuel Eade Name: Samuel Eade Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Chichester, Sussex, England Civil parish: St Pancras County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 16 Dickenson St Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Organ Builder Registration district: Pancras Sub-registration district: Kentish Town ED, institution, or vessel: 15a Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Thomas King Robson 33 Elizabeth Robson 32 Samuel Eade 33 View Original Record
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8 Sep 2009 16:53 |
I don't think I'm any the wiser at the moment as to where Frank Eade was born or where the Leavesden Institute fits in......I'm going shoe shopping for the daughter, I'll be back later!
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