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Henry Cole (1865?) Hartelbury Worcester

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Shirley

Shirley Report 14 Jun 2008 11:26

This is confusing, I'll try to maintain some "semblence of order" here.
My g.g.g/parents were Herbert and Sarah Ann Cole (nee Huish)
Herbert was born in Ombersley Worcester - christened 25/3/1840
Sarah Ann Huish in born Deviezes Wiltshire
They married 14/4/1861 in Kidderminster Worcester
Their son Henry married Jane Thomas around 1887 +/- 2yrs in Kidderminster.
Just to add to the mix
Jane was born 1863 in Madely Shropshire
Daughter of Thomas (born in Madely) and Mary Thomas (don't know maiden name but born in Oapengate Shropshire)
Henry and Jane emmigrated to Australia and eventyally settled in Werris Creek NSW where my grandmother Sara Jane was born in 1889
Its difficult doing research from this distance so hope some of you English COLE families may recognise a connection.
Many thanks ......
Shirley

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 16 Jun 2008 06:35

What info are you looking for..?

For ref...

1871 England Census about Herbert Cole
Name: Herbert Cole
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Ombersley, Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
Town: Duddeston Cum Nechells
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address: 75 Cuckoo Lane
Occupation: Gardener

Registration district: Aston
Sub registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 43
Household schedule number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Cole 6
Herbert Cole 31
Sarah Ann Cole 31
William Cole 9

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 16 Jun 2008 06:42

1861 England Census about Herbert Coles
Name: Herbert Coles
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Ombersley, Worcestershire, England

Civil Parish: Hartlebury
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street address:
Occupation: Gardener

Registration district: Droitwich
Sub registration district: Ombersley
ED, institution, or vessel: 6c

Household schedule number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Carter 47
William Carter 57
Herbert Coles 22
John Crudgington 65
William White 35

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 16 Jun 2008 06:45

1851 England Census about Herbert Cole
Name: Herbert Cole
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Son
Parent's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Ombersley, Worcestershire, England

Civil Parish: Hartlebury
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street address: Waverley Green
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Droitwich
Sub registration district: Claines
ED, institution, or vessel: 2b

Household schedule number: 87
Household Members: Name Age
Herbert Cole 10
Olive Cole 8
Sarah Cole 52 Widow
Susannah Cole 12 ,,, (19 on original)
William Cole 17

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 16 Jun 2008 06:52

1841 England Census about Evbert Cole (Erbert, on original - "Herbert'??)
Name: Evbert Cole
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Gender: Male
Where born: Worcestershire, England

Civil Parish: Ombersley
Hundred: Oswaldslow (Lower Division)
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street address: ?? Comhampton ??

Registration district: Droitwich
Sub registration district: Ombersley

Household Members: Name Age
Ann Cole 15
Evbert Cole 1
Joseph Cole 40 Ag. Lab
Sarrah Cole 40
Susannah Cole 10
William Cole 8

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 16 Jun 2008 06:59

1881 England Census about Herbert Cole
Name: Herbert Cole
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Ombersley, Worcestershire, England

Civil Parish: Kidderminster
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street address: Foxholes
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Gardener

Registration district: Kidderminster
Sub registration district: Kidderminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 6

Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Cole 5
Henry Cole 16 Garden labourer
Herbert Cole 41
Sarah Ann Cole 41
William Cole 19 Printer, General

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 16 Jun 2008 07:02

1891 England Census about Herbert Cole
Name: Herbert Cole
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Ombersley, Worcestershire, England

Civil Parish: Kidderminster
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Kidderminster
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street address: Foxholes
Occupation: Market Gardener

Registration district: Kidderminster
Sub registration district: Kidderminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 6

Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Cole 15 Clerk
Herbert Cole 51
Sarah Cole 57 Laundress

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 16 Jun 2008 07:05

1901 England Census about Herbert Cole
Name: Herbert Cole
Age: 61
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Amberley, Worcestershire, England

Civil Parish: Kidderminster
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Kidderminster
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street address: Foxholes
Occupation: Gardener

Registration district: Kidderminster
Sub registration district: Kidderminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 5

Household schedule number: 126
Household Members: Name Age
Herbert Cole 61
Sarah Cole 61 Laundress, wool

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 16 Jun 2008 07:09

This looks as if it could be the marriage of Thomas and Mary


Marriages Mar 1855 (>99%)

EVANS John Madeley 6a 801
HEALEY Mary Ann Madeley 6a 801
THOMAS Thomas Madeley 6a 801
VICKERS Mary Madeley 6a 801

Probably Mary Vickers as there is a Mary Ann Evans in later years.

1851 England Census
about Mary Vickers
Name: Mary Vickers
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Wellington, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Madeley
Town: Madeley
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Madeley
Sub registration district: Madeley
ED, institution, or vessel: 3k
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 289
Household Members: Name Age
Emma Vickers 7
Hannah Vickers 3
John Vickers 11
Mary Vickers 48
Mary Vickers 15
Sarah Vickers 24
William Vickers 53
William Vickers 4


Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1989; Folio: 318; Page: 75



1861 England Census
about Thomas Thomas
Name: Thomas Thomas
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Madeley, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Madeley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Madeley
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Madeley
Sub registration district: Madeley
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 330
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen Thomas 6
Mary Thomas 26 born Wellington, Shropshire
Mary A Thomas 1
Samuel Thomas 3
Thomas Thomas 26


Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 1858; Folio: 120; Page: 56

Christine


Julcoe

Julcoe Report 16 Jun 2008 07:10

....sibling...
1901 England Census about Arthur Cole
Name: Arthur Cole
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Kate A
Gender: Male
Where born: Kidderminster, Worcestershire, England

Civil Parish: Kidderminster
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Kidderminster
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street address: 58 Shrubbery St
Occupation: ??

Registration district: Kidderminster
Sub registration district: Kidderminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 7

Household schedule number: 91
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Cole 25
Kate A Cole 28

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 16 Jun 2008 07:16

and Jane's family....

1871 England Census about Jane Thomas
Name: Jane Thomas
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Madeley, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: St George
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Kidderminster
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:

Registration district: Kidderminster
Sub registration district: Kidderminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 273
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen Thomas 16
Jane Thomas 4
John Thomas 4
Mary Thomas 37
Mary Ann Thomas 11
Thomas Thomas 37 Engineer
William S Thomas 1

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 16 Jun 2008 07:22

1881 England Census about Jane Thomas
Name: Jane Thomas
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Madely, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Kidderminster
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street address: 27 George St
Occupation: Winder C

Registration district: Kidderminster
Sub registration district: Kidderminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Thomas 9
Ester Thomas 6
Jane Thomas 18
John Thomas 14 Works in Shed
Mary Thomas 46
Thomas Thomas 46 Engineer
Thomas Thomas 4
William Thomas 11

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 16 Jun 2008 07:27

Jane's Father & family

1861 England Census about Thomas Thomas
Name: Thomas Thomas
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Madeley, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Madeley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Madeley
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address: ???
Occupation: Engineer at Coal Mine

Registration district: Madeley
Sub registration district: Madeley
ED, institution, or vessel: 14

Household schedule number: 330
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen Thomas 6
Mary Thomas 26
Mary A Thomas 1
Samuel Thomas 3
Thomas Thomas 26

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 16 Jun 2008 07:31

1851 England Census about Thomas Thomas
Name: Thomas Thomas
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Samuel
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Madeley, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Madeley
Town: Madeley
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address: High Street
Occupation: Labourer

Registration district: Madeley
Sub registration district: Madeley
ED, institution, or vessel: 3k

Household schedule number: 223
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen Thomas 43
Henry Thomas 20 Hawker
John E Thomas 9 scholar
Joseph Thomas 8 scholar
Samuel Thomas 45 Engine Tender
Thomas Thomas 16

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 16 Jun 2008 07:35

1841 England Census about Thomas Thomas
Name: Thomas Thomas
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Gender: Male
Where born: Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Madeley
Hundred: Wenlock (Shrewsbury Liberties)
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address: Hills Lane

Registration district: Madeley
Sub registration district: Madeley
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eleanor Thomas 30
Henry Thomas 10
Samuel Thomas 35 Machine Keeper
Samuel Thomas 8
Thomas Thomas 6

Shirley

Shirley Report 17 Jun 2008 15:48

Julie and Christine
Thank you both very much for the Cole information you were kind enough to share with me.
Being fairly new to this geneology thing, it's a bit of a daunting task trying to find family info prior Henry and Jane travelling to Aust. Their daughter Sarah was my paternal Grandmother - she was an only child, I believe a twin died at birth, but thats another search again, whether it be fact or otherwise remains to be seen.
Thanks again
Shirley

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 18 Jun 2008 02:16

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983 about Jane Thomas
Name: Jane Thomas
Year of Registration: 1885
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Kidderminster
County: Hereford and Worcester, Shropshire, Staffordshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 287 ........Harry Cole

Birth.....if there was a twin its birth (& death) was not registered..
Reg. Number .. 22259/1889
Name .. COLE SARAH J
Father .. HENRY
Mother .. JANE
District .. QUIRINDI (about 20ks south of Werris Creek)

Who did Sarah marry ?

Shirley

Shirley Report 18 Jun 2008 11:21

Hi Julie, this is where it gets a bit tricky. Nana Patto - Sarah was my paternal grandmother.
She was married to a Percival Herbert Ayton approx 1908, then again to my grandfather approx 1915. but that is doubtful as family goss. has it Percival did a runner and couldn't be found for divorce purposes, so Nan and Pop (Harold Henry Pattison) did the unthinkable and unmentionable and "lived in sin", manufacturing "wedding dates" etc.
I had quite a problem finding my father's birth cert. He was the oldest of their children - Allan Henry Pattison - but his b/cert had family name as Ayrton and Pattison was listed as one of his Christain names.
He changed it in mid sixties. His family is full of little mysteries like this - I asked Mum and Dad (both deceased now) about them, but as per the standards of their age group, skeletons were kept where they belonged - in the cupboard.
I love a good mystery so I am poking around gleaning information here and there hopefully to put it all together
Cheers ... Shirley









Julcoe

Julcoe Report 18 Jun 2008 14:14

Found this one....?? 'P' = Percival ; 'A'=H --> Herbert ??

Reg. Number .. 12824/1909
Groom .. AYTON NORMAN P A
Bride .. COLE SARAH J P
District .. WATERLOO

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 18 Jun 2008 14:32

Thought that you might like these...

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Harold Henry Pattison
Name: Harold Henry Pattison
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1930 <<<<<<<<
State: New South Wales
District: Martin
Subdistrict: Mortlake
OCCUPATION : Storeman
ADDRESS : 9 Llewellyn Street, Rhodes
with Sarah, home duties (h/d)

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Harold Henry Pattison
Name: Harold Henry Pattison
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1936 <<<<<<
State: New South Wales
District: Parkes
Subdistrict: Strathfield
OCCUPATIPN : labourer
ADDRESS : 390 Liverpool Rd, Enfield
with Sarah Jane, h/d
& Allan Henry, Carrier.

For interest sake I did a search for Ayton.. both under Percival and Norman but found nothing.
However I can NOT check South Australia, so he either moved there, moved overseas or died..