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1911 LOOK UP PLEASE - CASTLE

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Gail

Gail Report 29 Aug 2010 20:26

Could someone please look up Henry William Castle for me?

Henry was born 1900 in Eastry, Sandwich, Kent. Unfortunately I don't know his parents names or whether he had siblings....so hopefully there won't be too many Henry Wiliam's there!!

Thanks in advance

Gail

TootyFruity

TootyFruity Report 29 Aug 2010 20:32

could only find an Henry George born in Kent

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

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CASTLE, Henry John Head Married
17 years M 42 1869 Watchmaker Kent Margate VIEW
CASTLE, Harriett Ann Wife Married F 37 1874 Kent Kingsdown VIEW
CASTLE, Fredrick William Son M 14 1897 Picture Frame Maker Kent Margate VIEW
CASTLE, Henry George Son M 12 1899 School Kent Margate VIEW
CASTLE, Cyril Son M 9 1902 School Surrey Wimbledon VIEW
CASTLE, Frank Son M 6 1905 School New Southgate Middlesex VIEW
CASTLE, Beatrice Hilda Daughter F 2 1909 New Southgate Middlesex VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
2769 Reference:
RG14PN2769 RG78PN95 RD29 SD3 ED20 SN100

Registration District:
Lewisham Sub District:
Lewisham Enumeration District:
20 Parish:
Lewisham

Address:
11 Brightside Road Hither Green Lewisham County:
London

Gail

Gail Report 29 Aug 2010 20:49

Thanks for looking TootyFruity

His name was definitely Henry William though, so not likely to be the same one

Thanks again

Gail

Gail

Gail Report 30 Aug 2010 23:22

Nudging up to see if anyone can help please?

Thanks

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 30 Aug 2010 23:37

useful confirmation for reference:

Births Dec 1900
Castle Henry William Eastry 2a 978

There's only one way to find out his parents' names: order the birth certificate. Without it, you're likely to remain in the dark.


My grx4 grandmother was a Castle in Wiltshire ... her grandson ended up in Kent ... ;)

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 30 Aug 2010 23:41

Janey and Gail,

I'm a Castle by marriage, gawd help you if they were anything like my hubbies side.. you'll need all the certs you can get to confirm everything.. LOL!!!

Dee x

Gail

Gail Report 30 Aug 2010 23:43

LOL...thanks!

Certificate buying it is then

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 30 Aug 2010 23:43

I don't see a death for him. Could you tell us what you do know about him? You know something, or you wouldn't be looking for him. Wife's name? Place of marriage and children's birth if any? Just to consider the possibility of him not being in Kent in 1911, e.g.

I don't suppose this might be him?


Name: CASTLE
Initials: H W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Royal Marines
Unit Text: R.M. Medical Unit, R.N. Div.
Date of Death: 04/11/1917
Service No: Deal/4211(S)
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: III. B. 28.
Cemetery: ST. JULIEN DRESSING STATION CEMETERY


Young, but people did lie about their ages to sign up. Unfortunately, that's one of the ones with no parents or birthdate listed.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 30 Aug 2010 23:49

Gail - I'm suspecting maybe he was born to unmarried parents and registered in his mother's surname and is hiding in 1911 under a stepfather's surname.

This is assuming that you do have evidence of his existence post 1911, which I'm not seeing any of!


Dee -- mine was Mary born around 1760 probably (married 1781, I was lucky to find), other than that, I have no clue ... but there's a decent chance her son was a bigamist!

Gail

Gail Report 30 Aug 2010 23:53

Janey, he had a son, Haydn, in 1939 who was born in Eastry (other children were also born in the area)

I believe he got married in 1927 to May Box in Eastry.

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 31 Aug 2010 00:01

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about May Box
Name: May Box
Spouse Surname: Castle
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1927
Registration district: Eastry
Registration county (inferred): Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 2823
Find Spouse: Find Spouse

Henry W Castle.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 31 Aug 2010 00:02

Yeah, looking around, seems hopeless without at least a mother's name from the birth cert.

His father's name (if he knew it, or didn't make one up for his own reasons even if he knew it as my gr-grfather did) should be on his marriage certificate, but best to start with the birth cert.

If it just gives a mother, even, we'll have her to look for.

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 31 Aug 2010 00:03

Yes, Haydn b 1939, mmn Box.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 31 Aug 2010 00:08

Interesting couple I can't find in 1901 or 1911 - married same quarter as HW's birth:

Marriages Dec 1900
Castle Frederick Eastry 2a 2109
Gibbens Helen Frances Eastry 2a 2109

Gail

Gail Report 31 Aug 2010 00:08

Oh well....am off to bed now
Henry still hiding...lol

Thanks everyone for your help. I guess I will have to invest in some certificates. Your time and help is much appreciated

Gail

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 31 Aug 2010 00:14

What to do depends on what proof you have so far. You say you "believe" he married May Box in 1927. What makes you believe that? Do you have the son Haydn in your family tree already? Is this a direct ancestor or just a branch? I am conscious of going down a route that might not be the right one.

Please confirm what you know to be absolutely true.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 31 Aug 2010 00:28

Search trees, MM. ;) Only one person has that Haydn!

Choccy

Choccy Report 31 Aug 2010 08:45


FOUND THEM !

1911

CASTLE, James E Head Married M 43 1868 Generel Labourer Sandwich Kent VIEW
CASTLE, Sarah J Wife Married
6 years F 39 1872 Ash Kent VIEW
WOOTTON, John F Son Single M 20 1891 Baker Bread Sandwich Kent VIEW
WOOTTON, Emily E Daughter Single F 18 1893 Sandwich Kent VIEW
WOOTTON, Thomas G Son Single M 14 1897 Sandwich Kent VIEW
WOOTTON, James E Son Single M 12 1899 School Deal Kent VIEW
******WOOTTON, Henry W Son Single M 10 1901 School Deal Kent VIEW
WOOTTON, Elizabeth S Daughter Single F 9 1902 School Deal Kent VIEW
WOOTTON, Charles W Son Single M 7 1904 School Deal Kent VIEW
CASTLE, Mary A Daughter Single F 5 1906 School Sandwich Kent VIEW
CASTLE, Edith M Daughter Single F 3 1908 Sandwich Kent VIEW
CASTLE, George E Son Single M 0 (6 MONTH) 1911 Sandwich Kent VIEW
WOOTTON, William F Brother Single M 30 1881 Book Repairer Sandwich Kent VIEW
WOOTTON, George Nephew Single M 18 1893 Butcher Sandwich Kent VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
4551 Reference:
RG14PN4551 RG78PN188 RD64 SD1 ED13 SN11

Registration District:
Eastry Sub District:
Sandwich Enumeration District:
13 Parish:
Sandwich St Clement

Address:
15 Upper Strand St Sandwich County:
Kent


John, Emily and Thomas Wootton all registered as Wootton at birth.

James, Henry, Elizabeth and Charles all registered as CASTLE at birth.



Sarah Jane Wootton married James Edward Castle in 1904 -


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Marriages Dec 1904 (>99%)
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Castle James Edward Eastry 2a 2287
Wootton Sarah Jane Eastry 2a 2287



John, Emily and Thomas possibly illegitimate if the William Wootton on the census is her brother.



The 1901 census for Deal in Kent is a 'missing census record', so looks unlikely that they will be found in 1901.

(Piece RG 13/835 Deal and Piece RG13/836 Deal are missing from 1901 census)

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 31 Aug 2010 19:08

Clever Choccy!

I can't see a birth for Sarah Jane Wootton (a Sarah Simmons 1873 Blean is on the 1891 census, Sarah S).

Choccy

Choccy Report 31 Aug 2010 19:29


this looks like her -


Births Mar 1873 (>99%)
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Wooton Sarah Jane Eastry 2a 853



possibly -

1881

WOOTTON, James John Head Married M 32 1849 General Labourer
Sandwich
Kent VIEW
WOOTTON, Sarah Ann Wife Married F 30 1851
Sandwich
Kent VIEW
WOOTTON, John J Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar
Sandwich
Kent VIEW
WOOTTON, Sarah Jane Daughter Single F 8 1873 Scholar
Sandwich
Kent VIEW
WOOTTON, James Robert Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar
Sandwich
Kent VIEW
WOOTTON, Fanny Caroline Daughter Single F 4 1877 Scholar
Sandwich
Kent VIEW
WOOTTON, Daniel William Son Single M 2 1879
Sandwich
Kent VIEW
WOOTTON, William Fred Son Single M 0 1881
Sandwich
Kent VIEW

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RG number:
RG11 Piece:
994 Folio:
65 Page:
44

Registration District:
Eastry Sub District:
Sandwich Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Sandwich St Peter Municipal Borough:
Address:
St Peter Street, Sandwich St Peter County:
Kent