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Gail
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29 Aug 2010 20:26 |
Could someone please look up Henry William Castle for me?
Henry was born 1900 in Eastry, Sandwich, Kent. Unfortunately I don't know his parents names or whether he had siblings....so hopefully there won't be too many Henry Wiliam's there!!
Thanks in advance
Gail
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TootyFruity
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29 Aug 2010 20:32 |
could only find an Henry George born in Kent
Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born Original census image
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CASTLE, Henry John Head Married 17 years M 42 1869 Watchmaker Kent Margate VIEW CASTLE, Harriett Ann Wife Married F 37 1874 Kent Kingsdown VIEW CASTLE, Fredrick William Son M 14 1897 Picture Frame Maker Kent Margate VIEW CASTLE, Henry George Son M 12 1899 School Kent Margate VIEW CASTLE, Cyril Son M 9 1902 School Surrey Wimbledon VIEW CASTLE, Frank Son M 6 1905 School New Southgate Middlesex VIEW CASTLE, Beatrice Hilda Daughter F 2 1909 New Southgate Middlesex VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 2769 Reference: RG14PN2769 RG78PN95 RD29 SD3 ED20 SN100 Registration District: Lewisham Sub District: Lewisham Enumeration District: 20 Parish: Lewisham Address: 11 Brightside Road Hither Green Lewisham County: London
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Gail
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29 Aug 2010 20:49 |
Thanks for looking TootyFruity
His name was definitely Henry William though, so not likely to be the same one
Thanks again
Gail
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Gail
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30 Aug 2010 23:22 |
Nudging up to see if anyone can help please?
Thanks
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JaneyCanuck
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30 Aug 2010 23:37 |
useful confirmation for reference:
Births Dec 1900 Castle Henry William Eastry 2a 978
There's only one way to find out his parents' names: order the birth certificate. Without it, you're likely to remain in the dark.
My grx4 grandmother was a Castle in Wiltshire ... her grandson ended up in Kent ... ;)
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30 Aug 2010 23:41 |
Janey and Gail,
I'm a Castle by marriage, gawd help you if they were anything like my hubbies side.. you'll need all the certs you can get to confirm everything.. LOL!!!
Dee x
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Gail
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30 Aug 2010 23:43 |
LOL...thanks!
Certificate buying it is then
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JaneyCanuck
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30 Aug 2010 23:43 |
I don't see a death for him. Could you tell us what you do know about him? You know something, or you wouldn't be looking for him. Wife's name? Place of marriage and children's birth if any? Just to consider the possibility of him not being in Kent in 1911, e.g.
I don't suppose this might be him?
Name: CASTLE Initials: H W Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Royal Marines Unit Text: R.M. Medical Unit, R.N. Div. Date of Death: 04/11/1917 Service No: Deal/4211(S) Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: III. B. 28. Cemetery: ST. JULIEN DRESSING STATION CEMETERY
Young, but people did lie about their ages to sign up. Unfortunately, that's one of the ones with no parents or birthdate listed.
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JaneyCanuck
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30 Aug 2010 23:49 |
Gail - I'm suspecting maybe he was born to unmarried parents and registered in his mother's surname and is hiding in 1911 under a stepfather's surname.
This is assuming that you do have evidence of his existence post 1911, which I'm not seeing any of!
Dee -- mine was Mary born around 1760 probably (married 1781, I was lucky to find), other than that, I have no clue ... but there's a decent chance her son was a bigamist!
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Gail
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30 Aug 2010 23:53 |
Janey, he had a son, Haydn, in 1939 who was born in Eastry (other children were also born in the area)
I believe he got married in 1927 to May Box in Eastry.
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Madmeg
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31 Aug 2010 00:01 |
England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005 about May Box Name: May Box Spouse Surname: Castle Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1927 Registration district: Eastry Registration county (inferred): Kent Volume Number: 2a Page Number: 2823 Find Spouse: Find Spouse Henry W Castle.
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JaneyCanuck
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31 Aug 2010 00:02 |
Yeah, looking around, seems hopeless without at least a mother's name from the birth cert.
His father's name (if he knew it, or didn't make one up for his own reasons even if he knew it as my gr-grfather did) should be on his marriage certificate, but best to start with the birth cert.
If it just gives a mother, even, we'll have her to look for.
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Madmeg
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31 Aug 2010 00:03 |
Yes, Haydn b 1939, mmn Box.
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JaneyCanuck
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31 Aug 2010 00:08 |
Interesting couple I can't find in 1901 or 1911 - married same quarter as HW's birth:
Marriages Dec 1900 Castle Frederick Eastry 2a 2109 Gibbens Helen Frances Eastry 2a 2109
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Gail
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31 Aug 2010 00:08 |
Oh well....am off to bed now Henry still hiding...lol
Thanks everyone for your help. I guess I will have to invest in some certificates. Your time and help is much appreciated
Gail
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Madmeg
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31 Aug 2010 00:14 |
What to do depends on what proof you have so far. You say you "believe" he married May Box in 1927. What makes you believe that? Do you have the son Haydn in your family tree already? Is this a direct ancestor or just a branch? I am conscious of going down a route that might not be the right one.
Please confirm what you know to be absolutely true.
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JaneyCanuck
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31 Aug 2010 00:28 |
Search trees, MM. ;) Only one person has that Haydn!
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Choccy
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31 Aug 2010 08:45 |
FOUND THEM !
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CASTLE, James E Head Married M 43 1868 Generel Labourer Sandwich Kent VIEW CASTLE, Sarah J Wife Married 6 years F 39 1872 Ash Kent VIEW WOOTTON, John F Son Single M 20 1891 Baker Bread Sandwich Kent VIEW WOOTTON, Emily E Daughter Single F 18 1893 Sandwich Kent VIEW WOOTTON, Thomas G Son Single M 14 1897 Sandwich Kent VIEW WOOTTON, James E Son Single M 12 1899 School Deal Kent VIEW ******WOOTTON, Henry W Son Single M 10 1901 School Deal Kent VIEW WOOTTON, Elizabeth S Daughter Single F 9 1902 School Deal Kent VIEW WOOTTON, Charles W Son Single M 7 1904 School Deal Kent VIEW CASTLE, Mary A Daughter Single F 5 1906 School Sandwich Kent VIEW CASTLE, Edith M Daughter Single F 3 1908 Sandwich Kent VIEW CASTLE, George E Son Single M 0 (6 MONTH) 1911 Sandwich Kent VIEW WOOTTON, William F Brother Single M 30 1881 Book Repairer Sandwich Kent VIEW WOOTTON, George Nephew Single M 18 1893 Butcher Sandwich Kent VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 4551 Reference: RG14PN4551 RG78PN188 RD64 SD1 ED13 SN11 Registration District: Eastry Sub District: Sandwich Enumeration District: 13 Parish: Sandwich St Clement Address: 15 Upper Strand St Sandwich County: Kent
John, Emily and Thomas Wootton all registered as Wootton at birth.
James, Henry, Elizabeth and Charles all registered as CASTLE at birth.
Sarah Jane Wootton married James Edward Castle in 1904 -
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Castle James Edward Eastry 2a 2287 Wootton Sarah Jane Eastry 2a 2287
John, Emily and Thomas possibly illegitimate if the William Wootton on the census is her brother.
The 1901 census for Deal in Kent is a 'missing census record', so looks unlikely that they will be found in 1901.
(Piece RG 13/835 Deal and Piece RG13/836 Deal are missing from 1901 census)
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JaneyCanuck
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31 Aug 2010 19:08 |
Clever Choccy!
I can't see a birth for Sarah Jane Wootton (a Sarah Simmons 1873 Blean is on the 1891 census, Sarah S).
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Choccy
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31 Aug 2010 19:29 |
this looks like her -
Births Mar 1873 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Wooton Sarah Jane Eastry 2a 853
possibly -
1881
WOOTTON, James John Head Married M 32 1849 General Labourer Sandwich Kent VIEW WOOTTON, Sarah Ann Wife Married F 30 1851 Sandwich Kent VIEW WOOTTON, John J Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar Sandwich Kent VIEW WOOTTON, Sarah Jane Daughter Single F 8 1873 Scholar Sandwich Kent VIEW WOOTTON, James Robert Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar Sandwich Kent VIEW WOOTTON, Fanny Caroline Daughter Single F 4 1877 Scholar Sandwich Kent VIEW WOOTTON, Daniel William Son Single M 2 1879 Sandwich Kent VIEW WOOTTON, William Fred Son Single M 0 1881 Sandwich Kent VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG11 Piece: 994 Folio: 65 Page: 44 Registration District: Eastry Sub District: Sandwich Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Sandwich St Peter Municipal Borough: Address: St Peter Street, Sandwich St Peter County: Kent
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