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Alison

Alison Report 3 Jun 2008 21:17

Hello

Im trying to trace the brothers on my grandad fredrick arthur buttle.He lived in lewisham london was married to florence buttle nee langdon.they had 4 boys dennis,ronald,allan,raymond.

I know my grandad was one of 10,plus so they are out there somewhere

thank you
Ali Buttle

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 3 Jun 2008 21:24

Can you give an idea of his age when were any of the boys born to narrow the search???

Clitheroelass

Clitheroelass Report 3 Jun 2008 21:46

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

this is possible birth of Frederick


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Births Dec 1903 (>99%)
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Buttle Frederick Arthur Lewisham 1d 1146

Jacky

Jacky Report 3 Jun 2008 21:50

hi alison do you know any names of the siblings of your grandad

could this family on the 1901 census be a possible


1901 England Census
about Henry George Buttle
Name: Henry George Buttle
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Norris William
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Lewisham, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Lewisham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Lewisham
Sub registration district: Lewisham
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 27
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Jane Buttle 30
Henry George Buttle 1
Norris Austen Buttle 2
Norris William Buttle 30
Oliver William Buttle 5
Robert James Buttle 4


jacky

Alison

Alison Report 3 Jun 2008 22:14

Thank you.Tracey i think that is my grandad he died around 1980
My dad was born in 1938 so i guess that would be the correct birth for my grandad 1900,s his brothers and sisters would be yearly i guess theres that many.i know there was a charlie and a peter buttle.Thank you.
i was trying to find my grandads marriage certificate but i dont know the year they were married,he was married to florence langdon ,again married in lewisham.i was hoping to find that because i thought his parents would be on there then i could search for them

thank you
Alison

Clitheroelass

Clitheroelass Report 3 Jun 2008 22:30

was your grandad the eldest and was your dad eldest or youngest

Clitheroelass

Clitheroelass Report 3 Jun 2008 22:36

im having a look now for a marraige but it would help if you could let me know if your dad was the eldest child to give a guide on a year of marraige

Tracy

Alison

Alison Report 3 Jun 2008 22:37

I dont know about my grandad but my dad is second eldest.
dennis c1930-32
dad-(ronald)1938
allan 1942
raymond 1945-45

thank you
Ali

Clitheroelass

Clitheroelass Report 3 Jun 2008 22:45

thanks im on with it now


Tracy

Clitheroelass

Clitheroelass Report 3 Jun 2008 23:31

Frederick a Buttle -- Langdon --Lewisham 1d 2057

1934 June qrt ( Florence E Langdon )



All the best

Tracy

JenW

JenW Report 3 Jun 2008 23:36

i'm guessing your grandad had a brother called henry g buttle and he married ellen james

Marriages Dec 1921 (95%)
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>>>Buttle Henry G James Lewisham 1d 2226
Hasson Wally O'Reilly Lewisham 1d 2226
>>>James Ellen A Buttle Lewisham 1d 2226

JenW

JenW Report 3 Jun 2008 23:38

siblings i presume


Births Sep 1894 (>99%)
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Buttle Oliver William W. Ham 4a 265

Births Jun 1896 (>99%)
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Buttle Robert James W. Ham 4a 363



Births Dec 1897 (>99%)
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Buttle Norris Austin Bromley 2a 443


Births Sep 1899 (>99%)
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BUTTLE Henry George Lewisham 1d 1162

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Births Mar 1902 (>99%)
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Buttle Dorothy May Lewisham 1d 1152

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Births Mar 1903 (>99%)
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Buttle Nora Frances Lewisham 1d 1220

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Births Dec 1903 (>99%)
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Buttle Frederick Arthur Lewisham 1d 1146

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Births Dec 1905 (>99%)
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Buttle Elizabeth Annie Lewisham 1d 1118

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Births Sep 1907 (>99%)
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BUTTLE Charles Eric Lewisham 1d 1169

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Births Sep 1909 (>99%)
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BUTTLE John Leslie Lewisham 1d 1083

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Births Jun 1911 (>99%)
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Buttle Florence E Lewisham 1d 1055

Births Dec 1912 (>99%)
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Buttle Jim Tinkler Lewisham 1d 2042

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Births Mar 1915 (99%)
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Buttle Walter Tinkler Lewisham 1d 2073

JenW

JenW Report 3 Jun 2008 23:40

Marriages Dec 1893 (>99%)
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>>>Buttle Norris William W. Ham 4a 105
Hawkes Albert W. Ham 4a 105
Knight Charlotte W. Ham 4a 105
Stutchbury Caroline Rebecca W.Ham 4a 105
>>>Tinkler Elizabeth Jane W. Ham 4a 105


fathers birth

Births Dec 1870 (>99%)
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Buttle Norris William Maldon 4a 244


mothers birth

Births Jun 1870 (>99%)
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Tinkler Elizabeth Jane Lewisham 1d 837

Alison

Alison Report 3 Jun 2008 23:50

Thank you all so much

Ali

JenW

JenW Report 3 Jun 2008 23:52

Oliver's marriage

Marriages Sep 1921 (93%)
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Bishop Florence A Buttle Brentford 3a 346
Buttle Oliver W Bishop Brentford 3a 346

and a child (there will be more but this is all thats on freebmd at the moment)

Births Jun 1923 (>99%)
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Buttle Stanley W Bishop Brentford 3a 133



Norris Austin's marriage

Marriages Dec 1921 (95%)
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Ashby William T Skinner Lewisham 1d 2158
>>>Buttle Norris A Fielding Lewisham 1d 2158
>>>Fielding Winifred M Buttle Lewisham 1d 2158
Skinner Maud M Ashby Lewisham 1d 2158

2 children (again there will be more)

Births Jun 1922 (99%)
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Buttle Victor D Fielding Lewisham 1d 1943

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Births Sep 1923 (93%)
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Buttle Eileen B Fielding Lewisham 1d 1826



Henry's

Marriages Dec 1921 (95%)
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>>>Buttle Henry G James Lewisham 1d 2226
Hasson Wally O'Reilly Lewisham 1d 2226
.>>>James Ellen A Buttle Lewisham 1d 2226


Births Mar 1922 (>99%)
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Buttle Charles H James Lewisham 1d 1916

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Births Jun 1923 (>99%)
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Buttle Norris W James Lewisham 1d 1868

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Births Jun 1924 (91%)
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Buttle Henry G James Lewisham 1d 1643

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Births Mar 1928 (>99%)
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Buttle Dorothy E James Lewisham 1d 1460


again, probably more children but not on freebmd yet

JenW

JenW Report 3 Jun 2008 23:56

All i have to say is, someone's parents were busy!!! 13 children!!! i dont know how they coped!

JenW

JenW Report 3 Jun 2008 23:59

Deaths of Buttle children:

Norris and Elizabeth's children

Deaths Mar 1910 (98%)
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BUTTLE John Leslie 0 Lewisham 1d 628


Deaths Jun 1915 (>99%)
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BUTTLE Jim 2 Lewisham 1d 1319


Deaths Mar 1915 (>99%)
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Buttle Walter 0 Lewisham 1d 1646



Henry and Ellen's children:

Deaths Mar 1925 (91%)
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Buttle Henry G 1 Lewisham 1d 1180
Buttle Norris W 2 Lewisham 1d 1178

Alison

Alison Report 4 Jun 2008 00:30

I know 13 children i cant believe it thank you al so much

Alison

JenW

JenW Report 4 Jun 2008 00:38

you're welcome. do you need anything else? i can try and get further back for you if you want

JenW

JenW Report 4 Jun 2008 00:41

for example, here's his father on the censuses with his parents and siblings...


1871 England Census
about Norris Buttle
Name: Norris Buttle
Age: 6 months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Willn
Mother's Name: Thirza
Gender: Male
Where born: Great Totham, Essex, England
Civil Parish: Great Totham
Ecclesiastical parish: Great Totham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Maldon
Sub registration district: St Peter
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 96
Household Members: Name Age
Norris Buttle 6 months
Thirza Buttle 19
Willn Buttle 24



1881 England Census
about Norris W. Buttle
Name: Norris W. Buttle
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Thirsa
Gender: Male
Where born: Great Totham, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Great Totham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address: Nr. Walden House
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Maldon
Sub registration district: St Peter
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Bertie J. Buttle 4
Clifford Buttle 7
Norris W. Buttle 10
Thirsa Buttle 28
William Buttle 34


heres the parents, dont know where norris has gone

1891 England Census
about William Buttle
Name: William Buttle
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Thirza
Gender: Male
Where born: New Sampford, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Orsett
Ecclesiastical parish: Orsett
Town: Orsett
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Orsett
Sub registration district: Orsett
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Bertie Buttle 14
Clifford Buttle 17
Dorothy May Buttle 2
Ethel Louisa Buttle 8
Lizzie Buttle 5
Thirza Buttle 38
William Buttle 44


parents marriage

Marriages Dec 1869 (>99%)
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BUTTLE William Maldon 4a 380
PLAYLE Thirza Maldon 4a 380