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Can some-one please look-up the 1901 census for me and post what it says about this family:

Harriett Brown, born Poplar, 1896
Parents were Alfred and Louisa Brown (both born in London around 1868)
Other siblings names are believed to be Amy, Elizabeth, Alfred, Maud and Louisa.

Think Alfred Snr may have been a labourer and most certainly were living in the East end of london.

Thanks in Advance,
Louisa

Name: Harriett Brown
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Alfred
Mother's Name: Louisa
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Bromley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Leonard Bromley
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England


Registration district: Poplar
Sub registration district: Bromley
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 105
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Brown 31 Occ: Maltster Labourer
Alfred Brown 6
Elizabeth Brown 8
Harriett Brown 4
Louisa Brown 31

ALL b. Middlesex

Address: 2, Egleton Rd

Thank you Reggie

very confusing though, my great grandmother, Louisa Brown was apparently born 9 december 1899 in London to Alfred and Louisa yet she doesn't appear??!!
and i can't find a def birth record either!

How about this one?


1901 England Census
about Louisa Brown
Name: Louisa Brown
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Alfred
Mother's Name: Louisa
Gender: Female
Where born: Dish, London, England

Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub registration district: Bethnal Green, East
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Brown 25
Alfred Brown 1 month
Louisa Brown 23
Louisa Brown 1

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Thanks but what about the other children: Elizabeth, Alfred, Harriett and Maud?
I have Louisa's marriage certificate and it states she was 22 on 28th October 1922 so obviously born 1899?

Am i missing something here?

When were the other children born? There is an Alfred there age one month and Louisa age 1, Louisa born Dec 1899 would only have been one when the census was taken.

LL

Amy 1891 but she died in 1894
Elizabeth 1893, Alfred 1894, Maud 1895 and Harriett 1896, all in Poplar.

There were two younger brothers as well, John 1902 and Charles 1903.

It's only Louisa that poses the problem!

thanks

Hi Louisa,

sorry, Maud appears to be missing from the first census as well.

LL

HI LL,

sorry, Maud died in 1900 from Measles so i guess she was either in a hospital or had already died at the census point.

Sorry,
Louisa

What was the maiden name of Louisa snr?

Moore.

I have the rest of the tree going back further than Louisa though

It's just a huge puzzle for mum and myself as she obviously remembers her grandmother and she only died in 1981 and we got her marriage cert today, we have just never been able to find a birth certificate or her on the census!

I presume that to get married and claim a pension you need an appropriate birth certificate??

Been bashing at this for what seems forever and nothing ever happens! (Sob!)

L

Any chance she told a fib about her age on the marriage certificate, so that she was over 21?

Did she have a middle name? If so, could her names have been transposed?

Just throwing out ideas.

Selena

Louisa,

any idea when Louisa and Alfred married, I had a quick look and couldn't find it?

LL

No sign of a marriage matching your details.........do you have the birth certs of other children?

I know i've tried before to fin their marriage but failed!
I'm presuming about 1890 as the 1891 census shows them living together in West Ham with their first-born, Amy Louisa who died in 1894 in Poplar.

I've always been told that she had no middle names (that's why I don't because i'm named for her) and my mother tells me that she was always very protective about her age!!!

Maybe she did lie about her age seeing as she can't be found on the 1901??

Knowing my luck i'll have to wait for the 1911!!!

There is this birth in the Poplar district.

Births Sep 1899
Brown Louisa Edith Poplar 1c 586

LL

I think this covers the St Leonards parish

Births Jun 1904
Brown Louisa Ethel Shoreditch 1c 69

Selena

Possible?

Births Jun 1894
Brown Maud Florence Shoreditch 1c 74

Selena

Sorry, I've confused the dates for maud, she was born in 1898, died in 1900!
Profuse apologies!

Possible, clutching at straws really!

Marriages Sep 1891
Brown Edward Shoreditch 1c 202
Moore Louisa Shoreditch 1c 202