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William and Eliza Brock

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Kerri-Anne

Kerri-Anne Report 25 Feb 2010 22:33

I am tracing my husbands family, and am stuck at william(born1815) and eliza(born1817) they had 4 children Richard,Charles,William and Edward, I found the family in the 1851 census but they arent in the 1841 census, can anyone help where do i look?

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 25 Feb 2010 22:38

Which part of the country should they be in and when and where were the children born?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 25 Feb 2010 22:40

1851?

Name: William Brock
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1815
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Torpoint, Cornwall, England

Civil parish: Antony
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: St Germans
Sub-registration district: Anthony
ED, institution, or vessel: 5a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 246
Household Members: Name Age
William Brock 36
Elizabeth Brock 34
Ricardo Brock 4
Charles Brock 1



Would the other two children have been born after 1851?

If not can you post the correct 1851 family

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 25 Feb 2010 22:40

Is this the family in 1851?

BROCK, William Head Married M 36 1815 Mason (1 Man)
Torpoint
Cornwall
BROCK, Elizabeth Wife Married F 34 1817 Wife
Torpoint
Cornwall
BROCK, Richard Son M 4 1847 At Home
Torpoint
Cornwall
BROCK, Charles Son M 1 1850 At Home
Torpoint
Cornwall

Address:
6, King Street, Antony

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 25 Feb 2010 22:42

1861..?
BROCK, William Head Married M 46 1815 Master Mason Employing 1 Boy
Torpoint
Cornwall
BROCK, Elizath Wife Married F 44 1817
Torpoint
Cornwall
BROCK, Richard Son M 14 1847 Masons Boy
Torpoint
Cornwall
BROCK, Charles Son M 11 1850 Scholar
Torpoint
Cornwall
BROCK, William Son M 4 1857
Torpoint
Cornwall
BROCK, Edward Son M 1 1860

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 25 Feb 2010 22:43

Yes must be correct family as the two extra children were born after 1851 and are on 1861 census

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 25 Feb 2010 22:47

Marriages Jun 1841
BROCK William Stratton 9 315
FOLLY Elizabeth Stratton 9 315

What do you think GB?

After census taken?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 25 Feb 2010 22:56

Was wondering the same about a marriage after 1841 given the ages of the two children on 1851 census

Have been trying to look at an image on Ancestry but the site is still playing up a bit

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 25 Feb 2010 23:01

Tell me what,I have FMP.

How about this for Elizabeth/Eliza and the fact that they rounded off the ages on 1841 a lot of the time?

MILL, Hephzibah F 75 1766 Cornwall
FOLLY, Elizth F 20 1821 Cornwall
HEDDON, Mary F 25 1816 Cornwall

Civil Parish:
Stratton
Address:
Back Lane, Stratton

patchem

patchem Report 25 Feb 2010 23:03

My ancestry also playing up. Torpoint comes under St Germans in 1841, but cannot search at moment. I was assuming they are not married in 1841, so he could be elsewhere including in Devon.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 25 Feb 2010 23:05

Hmmm,a childs birth?Not really sure about any of them

Births Dec 1846
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Brock Richard William Davis St Germains 9 100
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Births Mar 1850
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Brock Charles Rickard St Germans 9 99
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Births Mar 1859
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BROCK Edward Thomas St Germans 5c 37

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Births Mar 1860
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BROCK Edward Hawton St Germans 5c 36

patchem

patchem Report 25 Feb 2010 23:10

Possibly get the marriage certificate to get William's father's name, which might help place him in 1841?

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 25 Feb 2010 23:14

Will have to be that route I think Patricia.
I can find nothing for him in Stratton or St Germans area.
None are a Mason/masons lab

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 25 Feb 2010 23:21

1841 I keep looking at this one but no occupation is given

Name: William Brock
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Cornwall, England

Civil parish: Launcells
Hundred: Stratton
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Stratton
Sub-registration district: Stratton
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Brock 50
William Brock 25



Does look like the marriage cert is the next step

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 25 Feb 2010 23:25

I looked at that one GB ,Mary is a farmer so I assumed Son William,if he is son,was farming with her.


GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 25 Feb 2010 23:26

Yes good point

patchem

patchem Report 25 Feb 2010 23:27

William Brock from Launcells is married to Charlotte in 1861 and 1871, so a different one.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 25 Feb 2010 23:30

Thank you Patricia.

Lucky we have someone on the ball here GB;)

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 25 Feb 2010 23:35

??

Richard Brock Compact Disc #133 Pin #4486132 Pedigree
Sex: M

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Event(s)
Birth: 1847

Antony, TORPOINT, Cornwall, England

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Parents
Father: William J.B. Brock Disc #133 Pin #4486123
Mother: Elizabeth Edgecumbe Rickard Disc #133 Pin #4486126


Submitter
mark RICKARD
28 hurst avenue, exeter, devon, ex25lg, England

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 25 Feb 2010 23:38

Same submitter.

Edward Brock Compact Disc #133 Pin #4486021 Pedigree
Sex: M

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Event(s)
Birth: 1860

Anthony, Cornwall, England

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Parents
Father: William J B Brock Disc #133 Pin #4485870
Mother: Elizabeth Edgecumbe Rickard Disc #133 Pin #4485816