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Dorothy
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25 Feb 2010 07:22 |
I have a birth cert. with parents of Joseph Cecil Bradshaw b.1892,Didsbury, who are Joseph Cecil and Emily.Can anyone help me find Joseph Cecil Snr.???
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ChristineinPortugal
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25 Feb 2010 07:36 |
What is Emily's maiden name and the occupation of Joseph on the birth cert?
Christine
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Battenburg
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25 Feb 2010 07:39 |
Is Joseph ( father) a photographic artist There is a Bradshaw family living Withington parish in 1901.
I cant see the full details of who is together
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Julcoe
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25 Feb 2010 07:39 |
1901 England Census about Joseph C Bradshaw Name: Joseph C Bradshaw Age: 9 Estimated birth year: abt 1892 Relation: Son Father's Name: Joseph Mother's Name: Emily Gender: Male Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Withington Ecclesiastical parish: Withington St Paul County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 170 Wil*?*slow Rd Occupation: Registration district: Chorlton Sub-registration district: Didsbury ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 144 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Bradshaw 40 .. Photographic **?** Emily Bradshaw 39 Joseph C Bradshaw 9 Arthur Bradshaw 4 George H Bradshaw 3 Ada Lilian Bradshaw 3 Ellen Manchester 50 .. General Servant
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ChristineinPortugal
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25 Feb 2010 07:42 |
Possible.
1881 England Census about Joseph C. Bradshaw Name: Joseph C. Bradshaw Age: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1856 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Emily J. Gender: Male Where born: McHester, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Rusholme County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 2 St Johns Avenue Condition as to marriage: Married Education
Occupation: Photo Painter Registration district: Chorlton Sub-registration district: Ardwick ED, institution, or vessel: 87 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Joseph C. Bradshaw 25 Emily J. Bradshaw 24
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25 Feb 2010 07:44 |
Julcoe has the family. There is a Mabel Bradshaw 23 Patricroft Lancs occ assistant to photographer living Withington
I wonder if she is a relative?
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Julcoe
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25 Feb 2010 07:52 |
1891 England Census about Joseph C Bradshaw Name: Joseph C Bradshaw Age: 34 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Emily Gender: Male Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Withington Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Innocents Town: Ladybarn County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 27 Egerton St Occupation: Artist Registration district: Chorlton Sub-registration district: Didsbury ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Joseph C Bradshaw 34 Emily Bradshaw 32 Edith Hoggs 10 .. niece
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SnowyJen
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25 Feb 2010 08:06 |
possible!
Marriage St George Chorley, Lancashire, England BRADSHAW, Joseph Age:22 Wife: Emily POLLARD Age:21 Marriage Date: 10 May 1879 Husband's Father: Hugh BRADSHAW Wife's Father: William POLLARD Marriages Jun 1879 Bradshaw Joseph Pollard Emily Chorley 8e 612
Births Mar 1892 Bradshaw Joseph Cecil Chorlton 8c 718
Christening St George Chorley, Lancashire, England BRADSHAW, Seth Gender: Male Birth Date: 24 Aug 1889 Christening Date: 29 Sep 1889 Father: Joseph BRADSHAW Mother: Emily
Deaths Dec 1890 Bradshaw Seth age 1 Chorley 8e 395
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Dorothy
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26 Feb 2010 01:27 |
Hello Christine from Portugal,Quinsgran and Julcoe,Thank you all so much for trying to help me.I have seen the census and the earliest I have been able to turn up anything is 1881 census where Joseph and Emily are at 2 St,Johns Ave.The Birth.Cert of Joseph Cecil II has his parents as Joseph Cecil(artist) and Emily Slinger.The census show that Joseph (one) was born lancashire and Emily b. Scarborough. Dorothy. Sorry I don't reply straight away but I am in Queensland Australia.
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MaureeninNY
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26 Feb 2010 01:44 |
This one's the son of a photographer: 1871 Ancestry Name: Joseph Bradshaw Age: 12 Estimated birth year: abt 1859 Relation: Son Father's Name: George Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Manchester Civil parish: Cheetham Ecclesiastical parish: Cathedral Town: Cheetham County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Manchester Sub-registration district: Cheetham ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 163 Household Members: Name Age George Bradshaw 44 Mary Bradshaw 51 George Bradshaw 20 Mary Bradshaw 16 Champion Bradshaw 14 Joseph Bradshaw 12
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4062; Folio: 63; Page: 31
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MaureeninNY
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26 Feb 2010 01:47 |
For Ref: 1911 census transcription details for: 274 Bury New Road Broughton Salford
RG14PN23996 RG78PN1382 RD465 SD2 ED20 SN87 Reg. District: Salford Sub District: Broughton Parish: Broughton Enum. District: 20 Address: 274 Bury New Road Broughton Salford County: Lancashire
BRADSHAW, Joseph Head Married 20 years M 52 1859 Retired Portrait Painter Lanc Manchester BRADSHAW, Emily Wife Married 20 years F 49 1862 Yorks Scarborough BRADSHAW, Joseph Cecil Son Single M 19 1892 Art Student Withington Manchester Lanc BRADSHAW, Arthur Son M 14 1897 School Withington Manchester Lanc BRADSHAW, George Herbert Son M 13 1898 School Withington Manchester Lanc BRADSHAW, Ada Lilian Daughter F 12 1899 School Withington Manchester Lanc Say they've had 4 children,all living.
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Madmeg
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26 Feb 2010 02:07 |
So you knew all that William? It really does help if you tell people what you already know, to save people spending time looking for guesses.
The 1901 census is a bit out of line re the couple's ages, but right occupation and Chorlton/Didsbury/Withington/Rusholme are all much of a muchness, being suburbs on the outskirts of Manchester towards Cheshire, mostly merged into one area.
The marriage in 1879 is in Chorley, not the same area, not really Manchester, though the ages fit with the 1881 census. Oh, it isn't William's Emily if her father is Pollard.
No luck yet with a marriage of Emily Slinger.
Possible birth of Joseph?
Name: Joseph Bradshaw Year of Registration: 1856 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Chorlton County: Lancashire Volume: 8c Page: 433 (click to see others on page)
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MaureeninNY
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26 Feb 2010 02:11 |
I tried to backtrack with that niece in 1891-Edith Hogg> I got this far: Marriages Mar 1880 (>99%) Hogg William Richard Scarbro 9d 471 SLINGER Hannah Scarborough 9d 471
1881 Ancestry Name: Edith Hogg Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William R. Mother's Name: Hannah Gender: Female Where born: Scarboro, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Scarborough County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address: 29b Albion Street
Registration district: Scarborough Sub-registration district: Scarborough ED, institution, or vessel: 5a Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William R. Hogg 23 Hannah Hogg 21 born Scarbro Edith Hogg 6 months
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4802; Folio: 168; Page: 65
But I can't tie Hannah and Emily together.
Maureen
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Madmeg
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26 Feb 2010 02:20 |
This is the 1861 census for the family that Maureen found in 1871:
1861 England Census about Champion J Jan Bradshaw Name: Champion J Jan Bradshaw Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Relation: Son Father's Name: George Bagnall Mother's Name: Mary Dorothea Gender: Male Where born: Cheetham, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Cheetham County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Manchester Sub-registration district: Cheetham ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 22 Household Members: Name Age George Bagnall Bradshaw 42 Mary Dorothea Bradshaw 33 John Champion Bradshaw 14 William Jas Bradshaw 11 George Bagnall Bradshaw 9 Champion J Jan Bradshaw 4 Joseph Wright Bradshaw 3 Mary Amelia Bradshaw 7 Mary Dorothea Clampihan 85 But Joe is not Joe Cecil. The father is a something designer.
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Madmeg
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26 Feb 2010 02:24 |
Is this you, William? Found on
http://services.salford.gov.uk/forum/forumposts.asp?forum=22&id=66271&p=3
Posted by: marsal on 17/12/2009 at 01:44 I am looking for connections to Joseph Cecil Bradshaw b. 1/7/1856 married Emily Slinger @ St.James Didsbury.Can anyone help me?
Dorothy -Australia
If it's not you, I would reply to it pronto.
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Madmeg
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26 Feb 2010 02:32 |
http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/tourism/pgrphrs/pgrhrs.htm
Bradshaw John Champion, 1847- One of main supporters in the early days of the Arts & Crafts movement on the Island (along with J.M.Nicholson & R. Wane) - a copy of his painting of Douglas Market, which includes a self portrait, is in Journal Manx Museum iv #58 p104 March 1939) 1881c: a John C. Bradshaw, Artist (Portrait & Landscape), is shown as a lodger at Margaret Gelling's boarding house at 13 Mount Havelock 1881: Mount Havelock 1883: Mount Havelock 1887: 40 Finch road 1889: 40 Finch road 1893 40 Finch road, Photographic studio now conducted by Mr. L.B. Bradshaw (Brown's Guide, 1893) 1894: 40 Finch road
Very interesting. Not the one who is the father of "our" Joseph Cecil, but probably related to the family in Cheetham, and perhaps related to Joseph Cecil.
We need to find this marriage of Emily Slinger. Married for 20 years in 1911, and according to the above post married in Didsbury.
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Dorothy
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27 Feb 2010 07:22 |
Hello Madmeg, I am so sorry if I have done the wrong thing.I have not mean't to offend anyone(least of all those who are trying to help)Yes, it is me on the Salford site.And you will find me on a lot of other places too.I am just trying all out to try to find just where this first Joseph Cecil came from.I thought I had found them being married at St.James Didsbury.Too many Bradshaws.I thought the same as other people that he was the Joseph with the Bagnall Champion names.But no. Madmeg ,please don't be mad at me I need your help. Regards Dorothy Hollings-Australia(subscription taken out in husbands name)
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Dorothy
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27 Feb 2010 07:26 |
Hello SnowyJen,MaureeinN.Y. Thank you both so much for trying to help and I am sorry for Not telling you what information that I had.I do really appreciate your help.I have been trying for some time to find out information on this Joseph Cecil Bradshaw.Brick wall. Regards Dorothy-Australia
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MaureeninNY
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27 Feb 2010 07:59 |
Dorothy, I don't blame you at all for giving this one another go. Your wall seems to be made of "foam rubber" rather than brick. The Bradshaws ( the Champion group) weren't registered with those wonderful middle names were they? And the Slingers really seem to be "yours". Maureen
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Mary
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27 Feb 2010 10:54 |
I think this is Emily.
1861 James Slinger born 1829 Burton in Kendal Westmorland. Jane 1828 Bolton le Moors Lancs Jane born Darlington/Stockton on tees 1856 (Emily?) Mary 1849 Lancs James 1854 Lancs Elizabth 1858 Stockton Elizabeth Ann 1860 Scarborough. 1871 Jane 1829 widow Hannah Elizabeth Ann 1858 John Henry 1863 Scarborough Catherine Leah 1865 Scarborough.
1871 Jane Slinger 1856 Stockton on tees a servant in Scarborough for Fred bell born 1830 Stockton on tees he was a Carver and Guilder.
1891 Joseph C Bradshaw Emily born STOCKTON about 1859.
So is Jane 1856 the Emily Jane married to Joseph C Bradshaw.
I still can't find theire marriage though.
Maryb
Edit just looked at original 1911 it looks to me it says Seasborough Yorks not Scarborough.
I think Seasborough is near Redcar/ northumberland/Durham area?
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