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Brenda
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30 Jan 2011 14:15 |
I am looking for details of George Bobbett. He was born in 1820 in Wookey, Somerset. His parents were Joseph Bobbett and Honor Shepherd. George was my GGGrandfather. He had a son called George Bobbett who was born in 1845. On George junior's marriage certficate George (b 1820) is shown as deceased. However, I am led to believe he went off to the USA. I can't find George senior on any census returns. Although George junior appears on the 1871 census after his marriage to Amelia Worgan. I'd be grateful for any help looking for either George. Many thanks.
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AnnCardiff
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30 Jan 2011 14:17 |
George Bobbett England and Wales Census, 1851 birth: Wookey, Somerset record title: England and Wales Census, 1851 name: George Bobbett age: 31 gender: M birthplace: Wookey, Somerset relationship to head of household: Head record type: Household
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30 Jan 2011 14:18 |
George Bobbett England and Wales Census, 1881 birth: 1849 — Wookey, Somerset, England residence: Meare, Somerset, England spouse: Maria Bobbett record title: England and Wales Census, 1881 name: George Bobbett age: 32 gender: Male birth year: 1849 birthplace: Wookey, Somerset, England relationship to head of household: Head marital condition: Married profession / occupation: Labourer For Self address: Westhay Moor census place: Meare, Somerset, England record type: Household family history library film: 1341580 the national archives reference: RG11 piece / folio: 2413 / 96 page number: 3
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30 Jan 2011 14:19 |
Joseph Bobbett England and Wales Census, 1881 birth: 1863 — Wookey, Somerset, England residence: Wookey, Somerset, England record title: England and Wales Census, 1881 name: Joseph Bobbett age: 18 gender: Male birth year: 1863 birthplace: Wookey, Somerset, England relationship to head of household: Son marital condition: Unknown profession / occupation: Ag Lab address: Wookey Street census place: Wookey, Somerset, England record type: Household family history library film: 1341580 the national archives reference: RG11 piece / folio: 2411 / 26 page number: 4
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30 Jan 2011 14:22 |
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George BOBBETT Head M Male 32 Wookey, Somerset, England Labourer For Self Maria BOBBETT Wife M Female 31 Meare, Somerset, England Labourer Wife Mary BOBBETT Dau Female 9 Meare, Somerset, England Kate BOBBETT Dau Female 7 Meare, Somerset, England Alice BOBBETT Dau Female 4 Meare, Somerset, England Fannie BOBBETT Dau Female 2 Meare, Somerset, England Richard MAPSTON Visitor U Male 17 Meare, Somerset, England Ag Lab
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Westhay Moor Census Place Meare, Somerset, England Family History Library Film 1341580 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2413 / 96 Page Number 3
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30 Jan 2011 14:23 |
George Bobbett Pedigree Male Family -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 1820 Wookey, Somerset, England Christening: 25 DEC 1820 Wookey, Somerset, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: Caroline Savier Family Marriage: MAR 1842 Keynsham, Somerset, England
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MarieCeleste
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30 Jan 2011 14:23 |
Is this George senior in 1861?
BOBBETT, George Head Married M 40 1821 Agricultural Labourer Wookey Somerset BOBBETT, Caroline Wife Married F 40 1821 Compton Bishop Somerset BOBBETT, Frank Son M 11 1850 Scholar Wells Somerset BOBBETT, Ellen Daughter F 9 1852 Wells Somerset BOBBETT, Emma Daughter F 5 1856 Wells Somerset BOBBETT, Jane Daughter F 2 1859 Wookey Somerset HOWE, Charlotte Visitor Unmarried F 17 1844 House Servant Creech St Michael Somerset
Registration District: Wells Sub District: 1 Wells Enumeration District: 19 Ecclesiastical Parish: Wookey Civil Parish: Wookey Municipal Borough:
Address: Castle Lane, Wookey County: Somersetshire
**Edit:, ties with the marriage Ann found.
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30 Jan 2011 14:24 |
Husband George Bobbett Pedigree Birth: 1820 Wookey, Somerset, England Christening: 25 DEC 1820 Wookey, Somerset, England Marriage: MAR 1842 Keynsham, Somerset, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wife Caroline Savier Pedigree Birth: 1821 Compton Bishop, Somerset, England Christening: Marriage: MAR 1842 Keynsham, Somerset, England --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Children
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Elizabeth Bobbett Pedigree Female Birth: 1843 Wookey, Somerset, England Christening:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. Henry Bobbett Pedigree Male Birth: 1845 Wookey, Somerset, England Christening:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3. Frank Bobbett Pedigree Male Birth: 1850 Worminster, Somerset, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4. Ellen Bobbett Pedigree Female Birth: 1852 Wells, Somerset, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5. Emma Bobbett Pedigree Female Birth: 1856 Wells, Somerset, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6. Jane Bobbett Pedigree Female Birth: 1859 Wookey, Somerset, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7. William Bobbett Pedigree Male Birth: 1862 Wookey, Somerset, England
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30 Jan 2011 14:28 |
Caroline Savier England, Bristol Parish Registers, 1538-1900 residence: Somersetshire, Whitchurch, St Nicholas parents: John Savier spouse: George Bobbett marriage: 30 Mar 1842 — Whitchurch, St Nicholas, Somersetshire, England record title: England, Bristol Parish Registers, 1538-1900 name: George Bobbett event: Marriage event date: 30 Mar 1842 event place: Whitchurch, St Nicholas, Somersetshire, England gender: Male marital status: Single father: Joseph Bobbett spouse: Caroline Savier spouse's marital status: Single spouse's father: John Savier digital folder number: 4278212
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MarieCeleste
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30 Jan 2011 14:32 |
George senior in 1871:
BOBBETT, George Head M 51 1820 Somerset BOBBETT, Caroline Wife F 50 1821 Somerset BOBBETT, Harry Son M 28 1843 Somerset BOBBETT, Frank Son M 22 1849 Somerset BOBBETT, Jane Daughter F 12 1859 Somerset BOBBETT, William Son M 9 1862 Somerset Registration District: Wells Sub District: Wells Enumeration District: 19 Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Wookey Municipal Borough:
Address: Yarley Street, Wookey County: Somersetshire
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Potty
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30 Jan 2011 14:34 |
If you haven't found George senior on any census, how do you know when and where he was born?
Do you have George junior's birth cert?
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MarieCeleste
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30 Jan 2011 14:40 |
Brenda, I'm not 100% sure that the info that Ann and I have posted here is about the same George Bobbett senior:
The George junior in the 1871 census married to Amelia is this one, born Gloucestershire:
BOBBETT, George Head M 26 1845 Gloucestershire << No occupation given, born Bristol BOBBETT, Amelia M Wife F 30 1841 Gloucestershire BOBBETT, Ada M Daughter F 4 1867 Surrey BOBBETT, George H Son M 2 1869 Surrey BOBBETT, John W Son M 1 1870 Middlesex Registration District: Islington Sub District: Islington, West Enumeration District: 9 Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Islington Municipal Borough:
Address: Richard St, Islington County: London, Middlesex
Also in 1871 is this George:
BOBBETT, George Head M 28 1843 Somerset << Farmer/Willow dealer born West Hatch BOBBETT, Henrietta Wife F 34 1837 Somerset BOBBETT, Mary A Daughter F 4 1867 Somerset BOBBETT, Sarah L Daughter F 2 1869 Somerset BOBBETT, George L Son M 0 1871 Somerset Registration District: Taunton Sub District: Curry, North Enumeration District: 15 Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Stoke St Gregory Municipal Borough:
Address: Stathe Road, Stoke St Gregory County: Somersetshire
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Brenda
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30 Jan 2011 14:55 |
Thanks everyone for your help so far. This is the information I have: George Bobbett junior was married in 1864 and on his marriage certificate he was 22. He was a printer and living in Queen Street, Bristol. I can see the census you have found for him with Amelia is correct. On his marriage certificate his father is George Bobbett, who is shown as deceased. I did find the birth of a George Bobbett in Wookey and I do wonder if this is the one I'm looking for. I tried looking for George junior's birth but haven't been able to find it.
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MarieCeleste
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30 Jan 2011 15:00 |
Hello Brenda, I think this birth registration fits the George born Bristol, married to Amelia, in the 1871:
Births Mar 1845 Bobbet George Bristol 11 157
I'm not familiar with the area so don't know if Wookey comes under Bristol?
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Potty
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30 Jan 2011 15:12 |
Have you seen this (from a Public Member tree on Ancestry (George is compositor in 1901:
"George Bobbett, born in 1842 in South Bedminster, now a suburb of Bristol. He died in 1926 in Hackney, East London.
the earliest record I have found so far has been the 1851 Census when he was living with his Mother in West Hatch, Somerset. Allowing for boundary changes, this is not far from South Bedminster and was at one time, in the same county.
George was a Journeyman Compositor, more commonly known now- a -days as a Type Setter in the printing industry. A Journeyman was someone learning his trade, having served time as an Apprentice. By 1869 He was married to Amelia Worgan, also from Bristol, and living in Bermonsey, South London. Their first son, George was born.
By 1871 They had moved to Hackney and in 1874 their first daughter, Florence was born. They are listed as having 5 children in total, their last child being Albert Edward, my Great Grandfather, who was born in 1882.
On the 1891 Census, George and Amelia are living in 8 Church Road, Hackney.
Why did they move from Bristol to London in the 1860's? possibly because the printing trade was expanding and more people were becoming literate. By the time of his retirement, George Snr was a Compositor."
This is the 1851 census referred to but I don't think it is the correct George as this one is still in West Hatch up until 1891 and is on the 1871 as George Lockyer Bobbett and there is a birth reg for him in Taunton in 1842:
1851 England Census about George Bobbett Name: George Bobbett Age: 8 Estimated birth year: abt 1843 Relation: Son Mother's name: Sarah Bobbett Gender: M (Male) Where born: West Hatch, Somerset, England Civil Parish: West Hatch County/Island: Somerset Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Taunton Sub-registration district: Pitminster ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 3 Household Members: Name Age Sarah Bobbett 46 , widow, b Stoke St Gregory, Landed Proprietor Mary Bobbett 14 George Bobbett 8
I think the birth MarieCeleste has posted is probably your George.
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MarieCeleste
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30 Jan 2011 15:17 |
The other George Bobbett in 1851 is this one, but dad isn't George:
BOBBETT, Richard Head Married M 28 1823 Labourer Agl Wookey Somerset BOBBETT, Rhoda Wife Married F 23 1828 Cheddar Somerset BOBBETT, George Son M 2 1849 Wookey Somerset BOBBETT, John Son M 0 (3 MOS) 1851 Wookey Somerset
Registration District: Wells Sub District: Enumeration District: TYTHING OF WOOKEY Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Wookey Municipal Borough:
Address: Wookey, Wookey County: Somersetshire
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MarieCeleste
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30 Jan 2011 15:56 |
Brenda, in order to progress further you need to get a copy of that 1845 birth in Bristol that I found.
What were the witness names on George juniors marriage, and did it give an occupation for the late george?
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Brenda
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30 Jan 2011 16:22 |
Hi, Igot in with no trouble.
I did not take much with me to Bracknell so I am going to find all info on my George's and then get back to you if that's ok with you.
Brenda
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MarieCeleste
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30 Jan 2011 16:31 |
Brenda - I'm not sure where you're getting into or where Bracknell fits in?
Do you mean you're going to check your info and come back to us?
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Brenda
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30 Jan 2011 17:54 |
Hi
I just typed quite a lot of details and all of a sudden it vanished and this new letter was in front of me.
I cannot spend any more time just now as dinner needs to be cooked will get back later if i can.
Bracknell was explained in the e mail.
Brenda
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