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ann

ann Report 1 Apr 2011 22:03

Been trying to help a friend with his tree.His grandad was born in 1889 in Newcastle.His daughter was Ann Mcmahon and she married a Thomas Jones in Newcastle in 1936 Thomas Jones was born 1915 in Newcastle.Looking through bmd i can only see a marriage for grandad Thomas Mcmahon to Catherine Callaghan?My friend said his nans surname was Banna? I can not find a marriage for Mcmahon and Banna.Please help before i am bald.
Thank You for any help. Annie

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Apr 2011 22:07

when was Ann born?

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 1 Apr 2011 22:08

Can you just clarify a little? You didn't actually name the 1889 granddad.

He is Thomas McMahon?

I'm not totally convinced that Banna is a name, at least of long standing in England.

FreeBMD has 4 events:
Death1841 Prescot
Birth 1849 Carnarvon
Birth 1852 Carnarvon
Marriage 1885 Birkenhead.

Ancestry post-1916 shows 22 marriages for the surname, but virtually all of the people have Arabic names.

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 1 Apr 2011 22:08

Hi is this what you looking for

Name Ann McMahon
Year of Marriage 1936
Quarter of Marriage Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District Newcastle upon Tyne
Registration County Northumberland
Spouse's Surname Jones
Volume Number 10B
Volume Page 302

Spouse Match: Ann MCMAHON married Thomas A JONES

Name Thomas A Jones
Year of Marriage 1936
Quarter of Marriage Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District Newcastle upon Tyne
Registration County Northumberland
Spouse's Surname McMahon
Volume Number 10B
Volume Page 302

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 1 Apr 2011 22:09

Do you know when Ann McMahon was born? Her birth record will have her mother's surname on it.

alviegal

alviegal Report 1 Apr 2011 22:10

Is this him in 1911 do you think?

MCMAHON, Thomas Head Married M 22 1889 Miner Newcastle on Tyne VIEW
MCMAHON, Cathrine Wife Married F 22 1889 Newcastle on Tyne VIEW
MCMAHON, John Lodger Single M 31 1880 Labourer Shell Dept Newcastle on Tyne VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
30594 Reference:
RG14PN30594 RG78PN1753 RD558 SD3 ED16 SN186

Registration District:
Newcastle upon Tyne Sub District:
Elswick Enumeration District:
16 Parish:
Elswick

Address:
70 Cannon St Newcastle of Tyne County:
Northumberland

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 1 Apr 2011 22:11

PollyPoppet, I think that's what Annie *has*. She gave that info.

It's info about Ann McMahon's parents we're looking for.

alviegal

alviegal Report 1 Apr 2011 22:12

And is this Ann's birth?

Births Dec 1915 (>99%)
McMahon Ann Callaghan Newcastle T. 10b 277


or is this the right one? It seems a long time after 1911 to still be having children.

Births Mar 1940 (76%)
McMahon Ann Bannon Newcastle T. 10b 42

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Apr 2011 22:14

If Ann was born in 1915 then this is her and mmn is Callaghan

Births Dec 1915

McMahon Ann Callaghan Newcastle T. 10b 277

ann

ann Report 1 Apr 2011 22:15

I am looking for the Marriage of Thomas Mcmahon born 1889 who married a Banna? I cant find one.Thanks Annie

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 1 Apr 2011 22:15

could this be a possible

Name Thomas McMahon
Year of Marriage 1910
Quarter of Marriage Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District Tynemouth
Registration County Northumberland
Spouse's Surname Only available for records after 1912
Volume Number 10B
Volume Page 370

alviegal

alviegal Report 1 Apr 2011 22:16

This appears to be the McMahon/ Bannon marriage.

Marriages Jun 1919 (>99%)
Angus Margaret A Smith Newcastle T 10b 296 Scan available - click to view
>>Bannon Margaret McMahon Newcastle T. 10b 296 Scan available - click to view
>>McMahon William Bannon Newcastle T 10b 296 Scan available - click to view
Smith Martin J Angus Newcastle T 10b 296


and McMahon/Callaghan.

Marriages Mar 1910 (>99%)
>>Callaghan Catherine Tynemouth 10b 370 Scan available - click to view
GUTHRIE William Prechous Tynemouth 10b 370 Scan available - click to view
>>McMAHON Thomas Tynemouth 10b 370 Scan available - click to view
Stephenson Ida Elizabeth Tynemouth 10b 370 Scan available - click to view
Stephenson John Tynemouth 10b 370

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Apr 2011 22:18

the 1940 birth could be this marriage of parents
Marriages Jun 1919

McMahon William Bannon Newcastle T 10b 296
spouse Margaret Bannon

ann

ann Report 1 Apr 2011 22:18

Shirley if Callaghan then the first child was James born 1911.Annie

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 1 Apr 2011 22:19

I came up with the same 1911 for McMahon-Callaghan.

Might the Bannon marriage be a second, then?

Not seeing a Catherine McMahon death to fit.

Didn't think Banna was a name ...

crg

crg Report 1 Apr 2011 22:19

hi annie

on freebmd mcmahon and callaghan had 8 children between 1911 and 1927 all born in newcastle ann being one of them.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 1 Apr 2011 22:21

Name: Catherine Mcmahon
Birth Date: 18 Feb 1889
Death Registration Month/Year: 1971
Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Inferred County: Northumberland
Volume: 1b
Page: 148

Certainly fits the Catherine in the 1911 census to a T.

ann

ann Report 1 Apr 2011 22:24

Caroline i have them 8 but there is no Thomas and no Mary.Mary is still alive,so dont think it can be Callaghan.Also another child was called Jean.Perhaps it could be Bannon.I will try down that line. Annie

ann

ann Report 1 Apr 2011 22:25

Sorry i have not with held information i have just rang him Annie

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 1 Apr 2011 22:26

Annie, if you could give the birthdate of at least one of the children?

If Mary consented, that would be the surest thing.

That way we could see what the mother's surname on the record is!!

Better still, why not just search for it at FreeBMD yourself, if you have her birthdate? Then you can just tell us the mother's surname.