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BETHNAL GREEN TUBE DISASTER~3rd March 1943

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WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 15 Mar 2009 18:42

LEONARD JOSEPH HAWLEY

Sep 1878 Hawley Leonard Joseph H Mile End 1c 571
of 143 Antill Road, Roman Road. in Tube Shelter accident. BETHNAL GREEN, METROPOLITAN BOROUGH

Marriage:
Marriages Sep 1912
Bowman Florence L Hawley Wandsworth 1d 1563
HAWLEY Leonard J Bowman Wandsworth 1d 1563

Children:
Mar 1913 Hawley Alice L F Bowman Wandsworth 1d 1378
Dec 1916 Hawley Victor S Bowman Docking 4b 409

I can find nothing on any tree for Leonard. I have found some details on his son.

Victor S Hawley married Lilian E Parker, Wandsworth, 1d 1224, 2Q 1942.

Sadly no tree found.


Tracey x

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 15 Mar 2009 18:16

JESSIE ALEXANDRA BROOKS (maiden name Brown)

Jun 1888 BROWN Jessie Alexander W. Ham 4a 180
of 65 Waldegrave Gardens, Uminster. Wife of Ralph Rowley Brooks. Died at 65 Waldegrave Gardens. HORNCHURCH, URBAN DISTRICT
DATE OF DEATH 12/03/1945 (died after the event)

Marriages Sep 1922
BROOKS Ralph R Brown Pancras 1b 161
BROWN Jessie A Brooks Pancras 1b 161

Dec 1886 Brooks Ralph Rowlay Tisbury 5a 202 (wiltshire)

Children:
Sadly there are numerous Brooks/Brown births :(

Parents:
Marriages Dec 1880
Brown John William Hackney 1b 728 (1859)
Dawson Jessie Maud Hackney 1b 728 (1861)

Siblings: (1901)
John W Brown 1885 <Hackney, London
Susan Brown 1890 <Hackney, London
Ethel Brown 1893 <Hackney, London
Beatrice Brown 1898 <Hackney, London
Leonard Brown 1900 <Hackney, London

I have managed to get a possitive tree match for Jessie's brother Leonard. Have Pm'd them!


Tracey x

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 15 Mar 2009 17:59

ANNIE LOUISE BOXER (maiden name Knight)

Mar 1918 Knight Annie L Bartrip Shoreditch 1c 82
of 20 Hunslett Street. Daughter of George and Elizabeth Knight, of 9 Boston Street; wife of John Boxer (H.M. Forces). in Tube Shelter accident. BETHNAL GREEN, METROPOLITAN BOROUGH

Marriage:
Boxer John E, Shoreditch, 2Q 1940, 1c 107

Children:
John E Boxer, 1Q 1941, Berkhamsted

...and sadly possibly John's death?

Name: John Edwin Boxer
Birth Date: 12 Jan 1941
Death Registration Month/Year: Jul 1991
Age at death (estimated): 50
Registration district: Havering
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 13
Page: 43

1 possible match on a Genes tree, have pm'd the tree owner.


Tracey x

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 15 Mar 2009 17:35

IRENE PRISCILLA BOSWORTH

Jun 1926 Bosworth Irene P M >mmn>Rudd Bethnal G. 1c 196
of 10 Burnham Estate, Globe Road. Daughter of Edith Priscilla, and of the late William Bosworth. in Tube Shelter accident. BETHNAL GREEN, METROPOLITAN BOROUGH

Parents marriage:
Marriages Jun 1918
Bosworth William J Rudd Bethnal G. 1c 214
Rudd Edith P Bosworth Bethnal G. 1c 214

Siblings:
Mar 1920 Bosworth William R A >mmn> Rudd Bethnal G. 1c 453

Irene was not married and i cannot find any trees with her or her brother in.


Tracey :( x

EDIT:
had a look upto 1952 for a marriage for William R A Bosworth, Irene's brother....can find nothing.

Quoy

Quoy Report 15 Mar 2009 17:07

EILEEN BASS
bit of a quandry here cwwgc gives name Eileen Dorothy Margaret Bass age 7 daughter of Jessie and Maria Bass
Jessie Bass wed Maria Withey 1914 Bethnal Green.
Searched bmd records and found IRENE D M BASS mothers maiden name Withey b Dec qua 1935
sent pm to victoria

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 15 Mar 2009 16:58

ESTELLA JONES (maiden name Davies)

This is the only birth that comes up relevant, the first name is slightly different.
Mar 1884 DAVIES Estelle Abergavenny 11a 65
Wife of J. B. Jones, of 33 Old Ford Road. in Tube Shelter accident. BETHNAL GREEN, METROPOLITAN BOROUGH

Marriages Sep 1918
Davies Estella Jones Pontypridd 11a 1121
JONES John B Davies Pontypridd 11a 1121

Finding a birth for the husband is almost impossible!

Parents:
Marriages Jun 1876
Davies Thomas Pontypool 11a 206 (1849)
Sprake Leah Ann Pontypool 11a 206 (1858)

Siblings:
Leah Davies 1878 <Blaenavon, Monmouthshire
Sabina Davies 1884 <Blaenavon, Monmouthshire
David Tom Davies 1887 < Llanfoist, Monmouthshire
Margaret Davies 1890 <Llanfoist, Monmouthshire

Estella cannot be found on any trees so i have done an investigation on a sibling.

Marriages Jun 1912
Davies Sabina Rye Pontypridd 11a 942
Rye William Davies Pontypridd 11a 942

Children of Sabina & William.
Sep 1913 Rye George T Davies Pontypridd 11a 1451
Dec 1915 Rye William L Davies Pontypridd 11a 1221
Mar 1918 Rye Lydia Davies Pontypridd 11a 1233
Jun 1922 Rye Margaret Davies Pontypridd 11a 1223

This has still produced nothing, i will come back to this one.


Tracey x

Deborah

Deborah Report 15 Mar 2009 16:52

WILLIAM NIXON

Edit Info sent to tree, no matching members

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 15 Mar 2009 16:38

MARTHA ELIZABETH LAND (maiden name Peck)

Most likely birth match, is below, however we have her as aged 57 CGWC has her as 51?

Dec 1893 Peck Martha Elizabeth Sculcoates 9d 188
Wife of Henry Albert Land, of 43 Monteith Road, Old Ford, Bow. in Tube Shelter accident. BETHNAL GREEN, METROPOLITAN BOROUGH

Marriages Jun 1913
Land Henry A Peck Hackney 1b 686
Peck Martha E Land Hackney 1b 686

Mar 1892 Land Henry Albert Shoreditch 1c 33

Parents:
Marriages Mar 1879
Brown Jessie Luton 3b 513 (born 1856)
Peck John Samuel Luton 3b 513 (born 1858)

Siblings:
Albert Peck 21 < Luton, Beds
Samuel Peck 19 < Luton, Beds
Jessie Rosetta Peck 16 < Luton, Beds
Sidney Benjamin Peck 13 < Luton, Beds
Clara Peck 10 <Hull, Yorks

6 people have Martha in their tree, i am awaiting their return mail.


Tracey x

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 15 Mar 2009 16:21

I have an update on Clara Emery.

It appears the only person to have her in their tree has their details wrong! Typical, they have Clara the daughter dying instead of her mother. I'm just trying to clear some things up with him....and see if he can see his error!


Tracey x

Deborah

Deborah Report 15 Mar 2009 15:46

Had another look at the Roche family. Info sent to tree, no matches with members.

Edmund married Rhoda Smith in Hackney 1932 (full indexes).

Joan Mary , birth and death was registered as Mary Joan.

Checking PETER JOHNS

EDIT Info for Peter sent to tree, no matches with other members.

Jeanette

Jeanette Report 15 Mar 2009 12:55

found GEORGE CHAPMAN

info PM'd to Victoria

Edit: pm to tree owner (possible wife)

Jeanette

Jeanette Report 15 Mar 2009 10:20

SARAH TAYLOR
fairly certain she is Sarah Newton's mother


JAMES TAYLOR
nothing definite found to link to Sarah

possible parents but can't find a birth to match

Marriages Dec 1924 (>99%)

Foster Maud W Taylor
Henry M Foster Hammersmith 1a 594

Deborah

Deborah Report 15 Mar 2009 09:51

Morning all, checking Lilian French.

EDIT Struggling with Lilian as no given family on CGWC, her death record gives Lily M French, numerous births possible. 1911 census gives 5 pages of French's in the Bethnal Green area. There is also an Alice French who is a civilian death in 1941 but I can see no relationship to this Lilian.

Trying CHARLES MASON
Same with Charles Mason, no family given, difficult to identify on just his name and age.

Anna

Anna Report 15 Mar 2009 09:37

Christine, re.problems finding Tarbucks, remember the families didn't necessarily come from the immediate area.

War displaced some folk. My Gt.Nan was in temporary accommodation at the time because her house, not far away, had been bombed, but others may have come from further afield.

Anna.x

Anna

Anna Report 15 Mar 2009 09:31

Evie said... I'm also wishing the project weren't called Stairway to Heaven, being a good atheist who once again feels kinda excluded in spite of good works. But oh well, we get used to it. ;)

Sorry Edie, they had to call it something and as it's an inverted set of stairs going skyward I guess it was the best name they could come up with. I don't think the memorial will have the name on it, it will just be to commemorate The Bethnal Green Disaster and have some details then all the names (hence the need for correct spellings, Im pretty sure for example that Mrs. Chumley may well have spelt her name differently).

Actually, if memory serves me correctly, I think Sandra told me that someone said they'd have nothing to do with it because they disliked the name.

I think some folk would rather forget the unhappy experience, they're memories are still so raw. I know my gt.uncle never fully got over it, he always thought if they'd let him back down the stairs he could locate his mum and save her. I'm sure many had the same thoughts when dragged away from their loved ones who'd already died. So sad.

There were a few religions involved and, I would imagine, a few athiests, agnostics and 'I dunnos'. What's great is that we, who are also probably a right mixed bag ourselves, are doing this for them.

Are you tired of reading me tell you all how great you are yet?

Tough if you are.....YOU'RE GREAT, THANK YOU!!
Anna.x

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 15 Mar 2009 09:22

I had spotted Len Goodman was born in the area but did not spot a connection.
I am having great difficulty with finding Tarbuck matches. 1 person has 3 Tarbuks born Bethnal Green but much earlier. Cannot track Mrs P Tarbuck.
Could be him in 1901 but mother not P.
I may be able to find descendants of George's possible siblings. would that be any good?

Anna

Anna Report 15 Mar 2009 09:10

That's ok Christine, it was just a thought. We have Len Goodman of ;Strictly Come Dancing' fame sent books to raffle. He is related to Richard Coleman.

Barbara Windsor has offered to make appearance as it's on 'her manor' but has so far been unwell at the given dates.

Boris Johnson offers support, though not financial as yet!

It would be nice to get the memorial built asap as what's left of the survivors are getting old, obviously, it was 66 years ago.

Thanks for your efforts.
Anna.x

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 15 Mar 2009 08:52

Sorry Anna- unlikely to be related

Born Jimmy Tarbuck
6 February 1940 (1940-02-06) (age 69)
Liverpool, England
Occupation Comedian

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 15 Mar 2009 07:57

Name: TARBUCK, LOUISA
Initials: L
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Civilian
Regiment/Service: Civilian War Dead
Age: 44
Date of Death: 03/03/1943
Additional information: F.A.P. member; of 63 Newcourt House, Pott Street. Daughter of Louisa Ward, of the same address; wife of George Tarbuck. in Tube Shelter accident.
Casualty Type: Civilian War Dead
Reporting Authority: BETHNAL GREEN, METROPOLITAN BOROUGH

Can any one tell me what F.A.P. member means?

Quoy

Quoy Report 15 Mar 2009 06:56

doing MARY HAYMAN
daughter of Albert Hayman and Mary A Quill wed 1923 whitechapple
siblings

Albert P b 1923 Bethnal Green
Leonard R 1928 Bethnal Green