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Another one on the to be done list thats already been done.... Not a great deal more we can do on this one without more data...

However i am going to look thru ancestry with a death date and name and see what that finds :-)

T x

Wayne/Tracey 15th March 2009 19:11 Request review
GEORGE FRANCIS REYNOLDS

Dec 1869 Reynolds George Francis W. Derby 8b 425
of 289 Cambridge Heath Road. In Tube Shelter accident. BETHNAL GREEN, METROPOLITAN BOROUGH

Marriage:
Marriages Dec 1902
Corner Frederick William C Liverpool 8b 313
Pedro Evelyn Gertrude Liverpool 8b 313
Reynolds Ethel Liverpool 8b 313
Reynolds George Francis Liverpool 8b 313

Cannot find anything on any trees, there is no spousal data or children listed on CWGC.


Tracey x

We also have Emily Higginson on the to be done list and this was done a few days ago?

EvieBeavie 14th March 2009 02:53 Request review
Emily Higginson
62, Wife of John Ashworth Higginson, of 10 Seabright Street.

Marriages Jun 1909
BARRETT Emily Bethnal G. 1c 346
HIGGINSON John Bethnal G. 1c 346

Births Dec 1878
Higginson John Ashworth Shoreditch 1c 115

Good b*y luck to me on Emily Barrett ...

1911: HIGGINSON JOHN M 1911 1 MONTH West Ham Essex

Births Sep 1913
Higginson Frederick J Barrett Bethnal G. 1c 252

Births Mar 1911
Higginson John A W. Ham 4a 397 << probably
Higginson John H W. Ham 4a 52

A couple of matches in trees look good, I'll just store this here and PM the tree owners tomorrow.

Ann, you have Elizabeth in your undone list, i did this a few days ago has it been missed??

I have looked again and it's going to be almost impossible to identify the correct Alexander Fletcher remarrying.


T xx



Wayne/Tracey 14th March 2009 15:35 Request review
Working on ELIZABETH FLETCHER

According to CWGC fathers name James Ridley, this is the parents marriage.

Marriages Dec 1914
Dulwich Mabel E Ridley Bethnal G. 1c 266
RIDLEY James Dulwich Bethnal G. 1c 266

Elizabeth's birth...

Mar 1915 Ridley Elizabeth M A >> Dulwich Bethnal G. 1c 212

Her marriage

Dec 1937 Alexander Fletcher, Bethnal Green, 1c 280.

Looking for children now.

Tracey x

EDIT:

Struggling to find any children for this one, and she does not appear on any tree's yet that i can see.

T x

Isabella Rose Trice born 1904 (date of birth 1 January?). Died 3/3/1943 Bethnal Green Tube Shelter Accident.

Wife of Fredrick Trice; mother of Beryl 1937 and Patricia 1940. Address 42 Wessex St.
Daughter of Isaac Lazarus 7/7/1881; died 2 October 1918 France, WW1 casualty and Florence Hurley 1883-1937

Siblings:
Winnefred; Thomas;Edith; Eileen; Kathleen; Teresa; Albert & Albert.

Hope this is useful.

Regards
Sue Lazarus

I doubt very much much if he would interview. It was a struggle for him to remember some things as his health is poor so I cannot be 100% sure of reliability. I was just amazed at what casual conversation could bring up.

Thanks for the Richard Coleman clarification. The names did not seem to add up.

Very interesting Christine! Someone from the Trust ought to interview him on video, seriously.

The Froggitt family member said: "We always thought that Rose and her children died in an air-raid. We didn't realise they were lost in the Bethnal Green disaster. Perhaps this was part of the official cover-up that has been passed down through family histories."

Indeed it must have been.

Just asked one of my elderly patients today in passing if he remembered the BGT Disaster. I was astounded when he said he was less than a 1/4 mile away fire watching in his factory on the Mile End Road. He remembers being hugged by people when they saw him as they were so relieved. He was also friends of the Daily Star reporter who witnessed the disaster. He said they were told not to speak about it but his friend was distressed at not being able to report it.

COLLETT - another reply, from the Froggitt side of the family (Rose Emma Collett born Froggitt). She was very interested to hear about the memorial and Rose's connection with the disaster, and will be in touch with the Trust.

doing NEWMAN
found up to now
Doris L Newman bSep qua 1933 Bethnal Green daughter of George John Newman and Louisa E Newman 24 Tagg Streeet
both Bethnal Green.

Have not found a marriage yet between Louisa and George

Christine - re DICK COLLETT / Richard Trueman Ford

Births Dec 1908
Coleman Richard Truman F
Bethnal G. 1c 158


Ford may have been his father -- parents not married, father's surname given as middle name (the usual pattern) -- and he subsequently went by that surname.


It seems like the two Colemans in the list aren't actually related.

COLEMAN, MAUDE LOUISA
Wife of Edward George Coleman, of 236 Globe Road.

COLEMAN, RICHARD
of 12 Whitman House, Roman Road. Son of Henry Coleman, and of the late Elizabeth Coleman husband of Lilian Rose Coleman.


So maybe Ford wasn't his father's name, hmm. He just dropped the Coleman for some reason!

just to let you guys know i have work tonight and tomorrow night, If i get a chance i'll go back through mind tomorrow daytime

T xx

ROCHE - Deborah thank you for taking over on them, I won't be able to do any more searches for the next few days.

COLLETT- Anna !!! - reply from tree owner -- the family of a close family member of the Colletts is involved with the Memorial already.

Jessie Sharman ASSER - member of husband's family very interested, will contact the Trust.

ETTRIDGE - wrong person in GR tree.

Above info being sent to Victoria.

ANCESTRY TREES - I see a contact has been made through there -- thanks for mentioning that possible resource, I kept forgetting to.
(I had tried there for Joseph Raulinajtis of the many spellings, to no avail -- the advantage of Ancestry is that it does fuzzy searches.)


UPDATES -- please refer to Victoria's list on page 14 and her list of as-yet unresearched names on that page. I will update the master list on page 1 to reflect the latest work later today.

I think many of us will be busier as of today Monday, so I suggest we can take a bit of a breather. ;)

2 possibles for Charles Mason, no closer to which he could be?

1911 census

MASON, CHARLES HEAD SINGLE M 29 BREWER BOULING DEPARTMENT GEORGE YARD WHITE CHAPEL

HUMPHRIES, ANN GRAND MOTHER MARRIED F 89 HAWKER OF CHINA SHOREDITCH LONDON

MASON, SARAH SISTER SINGLE F 24 RAY SORTER WHITE CHAPEL LONDON

MASON, EMMA MOTHER WIDOW F 62 CHINA HAWKER WHITE CHAPEL ( nee Osborn) Husband Robert Thomas Mason

ALSO:

MASON, CHARLES HEAD MARRIED M 30 FRENCH POLISHER LONDON BETHNAL GREEN

MASON, ELIZABETH WIFE MARRIED 8 F 30 LONDON BETHNAL GREEN (nee Nix)

MASON, CHARLES REGINALD SON M 6 SCHOOL LONDON BETHNAL GREEN

Just a quickie, Christine, as I'm off to work. The contacts I have on my list for Dickie Corbett is Len Goodman (of Strictly Come Dancing fame) and a Jackie Capper. Hope that's of some help.
Anna.x

Just want to query something I have just come across while googling.

QUOTE
The most famous casualty was former British boxing champion Dick Corbett-real name Richard Trueman Ford -who fought under the nom du ring of ''Dick Corbett''.
Corbet-t killed in the Bethnal Green tube station crush while serving as a Civil Defence warden- beat American world featheweight title holder, Petey Sarron in a non-title fight pre-war.
A bomb detonating provoked the panic that cost Dick Corbett his life but miraculosly when they discovered Dick CORBETT'S BODY-HE WAS THE LAST PERSON TO BE FOUND among the crush-he was clutching a baby who was still alive thanks to hero Corbett protecting it as he was swept down the Tube statioon in the ensuing panic.

In your found list you have

Maud Coleman 54
Richard Coleman 34
(known as Bobby or Dickie Corbett)

They seem to be referring to the same person but the names do not quite match.

EMILY HIGGINSON

Edit Info sent to tree, GR members found

In reply to question from Victoria, "was LILIAN FRENCH married", sorry Vic, I don't know. No extra info on the list.

I have had an email from ELIZABETH BENDON's 2nd (?) cousin......she was his maternal grandfather's niece. Also a confirmation that ROSINA PAPWORTH was ELIZABETH's cousin, was 6 months pregnant (and abuot to be evacuated to Hertfordshire) and her 4 year old daughter survived and was found sitting on a bench in the park next door (Victoria park known as Barmey Park).

WOW!

Anna.x

SARAH MARIA HOVER POOLE- FOUND.

Info sent to tree, searching matches.
EDIT one match on ancestry, email sent.No GR matches.

James Smith (Rhoda's father/Roche family).

The member Malcolm with James Smith in his tree gives birth place as Belvedere, Kent, so maybe not.

On the other hand there is a member Jo who gives James Smith b 1880 Bethnal Green, I will pm to see if she recognizes the family.

Deborah

UPDATE
Benjamin LEGGETT FAMILY below sent to tree
CONTACT SENT TO PEOPLE WITH SARAH AND JESSIE IN THEIR TREE

Parents of Benjamin George Leggett
Marriages Dec 1906
Coker Levinia /Leggett Benjamin
1901 Coker Family
John Coker 55
Elizabeth Coker 52
Edward Coker 18
George Coker 16
**Lovinia Coker 14 Where born: Old Ford, Alma Rd
Bert Coker 11
Sarah Coker 10
Jessie Coker 6


Cannot confirm Leggett family in 1901

WIFE of Benjamin who also died
(Rose M Leggett nee Gable)

Births Mar 1911

Gable Rose M Romford
1911 census
GABLE ALICE F 1908 3 Romford Essex
GABLE CHARLOTTE F 1883 28 Romford Essex
GABLE CHARLOTTE F 1907 4 Romford Essex
GABLE ROSE F 1910 5 MONTHS Romford Essex
GABLE THOMAS M 1885 26 Romford Essex
NO contacts found