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Evie do you think you could indicate next to names "message sent" or "no match" so that we don't search what has already been done?
Starting the other end of the list
Wilson
WILSON, EDNA ROSINA
Initials: E R
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Civilian
Regiment/Service: Civilian War Dead
Age: 15
Date of Death: 03/03/1943
Additional information: Daughter of Mr. and Rosina H. Wilson, of 37 Butler Estate, Roman Road. in Tube Shelter accident.
Casualty Type: Civilian War Dead
Reporting Authority: BETHNAL GREEN, METROPOLITAN BOROUGH
Name: Edna R Wilson
Mother's Maiden Surname: Mitchell (parents marriage 1922 Rosina H Mitchell/Alfred E Wilson
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1927
Registration district: Bethanl G.
Registration county: Greater London
Volume Number: 1c
Page Number: 205

NO MATCH FOUND ON "SEARCH TREES" for her
there is a possible sibling Sam Wilson 1937 (only one one on bmd and has mmn Mitchell) looks like he has only put his name on tree. *SENT MESSAGE TO SAM*

I have sent you my two easy ones

Jessie Asser born Sharman + husband
Elizabeth Bendon

Will get to the others tomorrow.

Mucho thanks for this!

edit -- wow, that was fast! Only thing: Jessie was a girl. ;)

... and I've sent you the Bakers, Minnie and George.

have changed the community name

It seems that other members will not be able to enter info into the tree.

I will do this if you send a PM with the following info (no embelishments please)

Name including maiden name
date of birth
place of birth
last known address (maybe from CWGC)
note eg Died at xxx hospital

spouse name
date of birth
place of birth

father name
date of birth
place of birth

mother name
date of birth
place of birth

siblings
name
date of birth
place of birth

This is actually Victoria here!!

I have been able to get all the names into GR via gedcom (despite having a power cut here!)

If you want to access the tree to gain access please try searching for one of the names that you are researching

The tree owner should come up as Bethnal Green

Any probs then let me know.

Name: TARBUCK, GEORGE
Initials: G
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Civilian
Regiment/Service: Civilian War Dead
Age: 45
Date of Death: 03/03/1943
Additional information: of 63 Newcourt House, Pott Street. Son of Mrs. P. Tarbuck, of 31 Sceptre Street; husband of Louisa Tarbuck. in Tube Shelter accident.
Casualty Type: Civilian War Dead
Reporting Authority: BETHNAL GREEN, METROPOLITAN BOROUGH


Name: TARBUCK, LOUISA
Initials: L
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Civilian
Regiment/Service: Civilian War Dead
Age: 44
Date of Death: 03/03/1943
Additional information: F.A.P. member; of 63 Newcourt House, Pott Street. Daughter of Louisa Ward, of the same address; wife of George Tarbuck. in Tube Shelter accident.
Casualty Type: Civilian War Dead
Reporting Authority: BETHNAL GREEN, METROPOLITAN BOROUGH


Marriages Dec 1925 (>99%)
Tarbuck George Ward Whitechapel 1c 409
Ward Louisa H Tarbuck Whitechapel 1c 409

1901 Address: 140, Quinns Square Buildings Block 6, Bethnal Green
WARD, Samuel Head Married M 23 1878 Wood Carver
Bow
London
WARD, Louisa Wife Married F 25 1876 Match Box Maker
Bethnal Green
London
WARD, Daniel Son Single M 5 1896
Bethnal Green
London
WARD, Louisa Daughter F 3 1898
Bishopsgate
London
WARD, Alice Daughter F 0 (11 MOS) 1901
Bethnal Green
London

cannot see geogre 1911


Births Dec 1897 (>99%)
Tarbuck George Bethnal G. 1c 183

Births Dec 1895 (>99%)
Ward Louisa Helena Bethnal G. 1c 219

This may be George -will carry on checking

1901 Address: 60, Pereira Street, Bethnal Green
TARBUCK, Mark Head Married M 52 1849 Fish Curer
Bethnal Green
London
TARBUCK, Mary Wife Married F 44 1857
Bethnal Green
London
TARBUCK, Mary Daughter Single F 20 1881 Boot Machinist
Bethnal Green
London
TARBUCK, Jane Daughter Single F 17 1884 Boot Machinist
Bethnal Green
London
TARBUCK, Mark Son Single M 17 1884 Fish Porter
Bethnal Green
London
TARBUCK, Annie Daughter Single F 11 1890
Bethnal Green
London
TARBUCK, Alice Daughter Single F 7 1894
Bethnal Green
London
TARBUCK, Charles Son Single M 5 1896
Bethnal Green
London
TARBUCK, George Son M 3 1898
Bethnal Green
London

They do not appear to have had children.

LOUISA WARD Tree owner Vanessa pm rsponse Wrong Louisa.

Ah, that's why I was saying we should ignore that second list of Anna's (the second list on page 2). I hadn't even noticed the Seabrooks were on there.

I composed my list on page 1 by taking the surnames from Anna's original post:

Asser, Baker, Bass, Berger, Bendon, Bosworth, Boxer, Brooks, Chandler, Chapman, Collett, Court, Day, Dongrey, Ellam, Emery, Ewett, Fletcher, Forbes, French, Geary, Hales, Hammond, Hawley, Hayman, Higginson, Hillier, Hiscocke, Johns, Korobenic, Lawson, Leggett, Lewis, Loftus, Mason, Mathers, Mead, Morris, Myers, Newman, Newton, Nixon, Papworth, Poole, Pusey, Raulinaitis, Reynolds, Riddell, Roche, Sear, Smith, Stretch, Tarbuck, Taylor, Thompson, Tilbury, Trayling, Trice, Vann, Vanner, Warrington, Welch, Whitehead, Wilson.

and getting the details of the individuals from the memorial website.

So I think we should stick with them, the ones with no known family, for now.

Forgive my own thickitude, but who's Doreen? Must be the person with the Seabrooks in her tree? (I can answer my own question: yes) Sure, why not? She may know all about the memorial, she may know nothing at all and be pleased to hear!

I think we should both go to sleep now. ;)

sorry evie i thought some had been found but they are on the list. there is someone on gr but not sandra the secretary. You will have to forgive me if my brain is a little fuddled. I did a heavy day in a nursing home yesterday-fell asleep without my dinner. and a clinic from 10.oo this morning till 9.30 tonight and left work 1.30 this morning after sorting paperwork and orders etc. Got more homevisits tomorrow but gotta eat. Do you want me to send a message to Doreen?

Back to my 5 names -- a question, Anna.

Emily Berger 57

She isn't listed by the CWGC. I also tried Burger. And I tried as non-civilian (there may have been members of military groups in the crowd?)

Any other info to find her with?

Marriages Dec 1909 (>99%)
RYAN Sarah Florence Bethnal G. 1c 335
SEABROOK James Bethnal G. 1c 335

Births Sep 1911 (>99%)
SEABROOK James W Ryan Bethnal G. 1c 254


Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

Births Dec 1912 (>99%)
Seabrook Charles M Ryan Bethnal G. 1c 212

Births Jun 1914 (>99%)
SEABROOK Daisy Ryan Bethnal G 1c 280
SEABROOK Thomas Ryan Bethnal G 1c 280

Births Jun 1915 (>99%)
Seabrook May Ryan Bethnal G. 1c 249

Births Sep 1917 (>99%)
Seabrook Ivy Ryan Bethnal G. 1c 114

Births Sep 1920 (>99%)
Seabrook Emmanuel Ryan Bethnal G. 1c 229

Births Sep 1921 (>99%)
Seabrook Cecil G Ryan Lambeth 1d 634

Hang on, Christine, the Seabrooks aren't on the list! They're *found* -- one of their family members is an organizer of the memorial.

Now, go back to the list I put on page one -- victims for whom there is no known family.

Pick a name/family. Then, the idea is to see whether there are matches in trees at GR. A quick search right away might turn one up, but for married women, for instance, it may be necessary to go find the marriage, or her child's birth, if a child was also killed, to find her birth surname.

Good idea -- start off with the CWGC entry for the person(s) you're doing!

Glad to see you on board, Christine. I think we're all going to need honourable mention on this memorial. ;)

Name: SEABROOK, BARRY JAMES
Initials: B J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Civilian
Regiment/Service: Civilian War Dead
Age: 2
Date of Death: 03/03/1943
Additional information: Son of Mr. and Mrs. James William Seabrook, of 86 Bonner Road. in Tube Shelter accident.
Casualty Type: Civilian War Dead
Reporting Authority: BETHNAL GREEN, METROPOLITAN BOROUGH


Name: SEABROOK, SARAH FLORENCE
Initials: S F
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Civilian
Regiment/Service: Civilian War Dead
Age: 62
Date of Death: 03/03/1943
Additional information: Wife of James William Seabrook, of 158 Gretton House Buildings. in Tube Shelter accident.
Casualty Type: Civilian War Dead
Reporting Authority: BETHNAL GREEN, METROPOLITAN BOROUGH

Victoria, that sounds great. If I only understood it. Believe it or not, I have never attempted to use family tree software.

So ... I'll just be able to give you my info and you'll put it in the tree? ;)

Anna, when you come back -- PM us your email address and I'll make a start.

This is the first message I'm sending (once I get your email address), if anybody just wants to use it as a template:


SAMPLE MESSAGE TO GR MEMBER WITH A VICTIM IN HIS/HER TREE

Re: Elizabeth Bendon (1904)

Hello [name]. I'm writing about a project that is being discussed here at GenesReunited.

There is an effort underway to find family of people who died in the 1943 Bethnal Green Tube Disaster.

http://www.stairwaytoheavenmemorial.org/

That Elizabeth Bendon is one of the people for whom there is no family known to the memorial organizers. Her entry at the Commonwealth War Graves Commission site is here:

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=3125160

The discussion here at GenesReunited is in this thread on the discussion boards:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1134367

If you have a paid subscription to GenesReunited you can post in that thread and we would all be delighted to see what you can tell. If not, I would be happy to pass on any info you send by posting it there.

Anna, the person who posted the information, would love to hear from you if that is your Elizabeth Bendon. You can reach her at this email address:

Thanks!

If we create the tree in GR we would have to have a Bethnal Green Mum and Dad as we don't seem to be able to add unrelated people.

In the meantime I'm putting my info into my own family tree software and can download gedcom when required.

I can add unrelated people in my sofware so what I will do is put EVERYONE's name and then when we load it into GR people can then add the info on the people that they have found

I will do this NOW

A BIG YES!!!

Evie, Victoria or anyone else for that matter, if you're up for doing the contacting that's great, anything is gratefully accepted as I'm also doing other things for the charity too to try to help Sandra who has to do so much.

Neither of us is grumbling but it has to fit around my job too (and we're in the middle of buying a house in Scotland and setting up a business but that's another story!)

I'll play 'catch up' tomorrow and see where I can dive in but anything you're willing to do in the meantime is so appreciated.

Now, I really and truly am off to bed before I drop where I sit. Goodnight.x

Anna, you're left with the job of reading the thread for the finds.

I've marked mine with >>> when I've found an obvious or probable match in trees.

Then you get to send messages to the people with the match!

Or ... should we take on the job of contacting the people we find with matches for our names, and sending them the URL for this thread and for the website, and your email address?

I'm thinking you're going to say "yes" ...

Victoria - yes, I did figure that out right away, that's how I found more on my list, from the wife's name in one, e.g.

I don't know how one would create a BGTD tree here. The people aren't related! We could just create one mythical ancestor (Bethnalgreentube Disaster?) and add everybody on the list as a child??

Yes, Sandra Scotting is the secretary of the charity raising funds for the memorial and she gave me the list to sort and research. I will join in your search but it will have to wait until tomorrow I'm afraid, I really must get some sleep (the pc keeps dragging me back to see what you've discovered).

Were you asking me if I can put a Bethnal Green Disaster tree on here Victoria? If I can I will, any tips gratfully received. Although I have the startings of my own tree I'm a novice on GR.

Thanks again girls.x