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ROSE MAUD LEGGETT NEE GABLE

Pm's sent to

Carole
Gerald
Dawn

have Thomas Gable in tree

JOHN SAMUEL LOFTUS

response to PM

"Thank you for your email regarding James Loftus. As far as I know this is my relative. I have no living relatives that I can confirm this relation. I have traced him myself as I have my other relatives.

I have opened my tree to you. I have looked at your tree but there is only one name on there, so unable to to give you any further information.

Regards

Linda"


would need to check marriage of James to Elizabeth Keys to confirm the family

re: Contact from Steven regarding Collett family

Blasted people don't update their account info.
I PMed Steven ages ago and he's never opened my message!!
Obviously changed his email address.

Get GMAIL ACCOUNTS, people! They're good for life!


Have updated the list on the first page to include the Lawsons found by Jeanette.

Re: Loftus

Louisa Loftus 15 - no matches in trees (Deborah)
John Loftus 13 - "

The marriage of James Loftus and Elizabeth Keys is what the GR member has in his tree?

There's a slew of Loftus-Keys births in Mile End / Bethnal Green etc, two of which are:

Name: Louise E Loftus
Mother's Maiden Surname: Keys
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1928
Registration district: Bethnal G

>> we might want to have two entries for her, one as Louise, her proper name, and one as Louisa.

Name: John S Loftus
Mother's Maiden Surname: Keys
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1930
Registration district: Bethnal G


Those are presumably what Deborah found and are in the BGTD tree?

If the GR member's Loftus was married to Keys, it looks like they are the parents of the two Loftus victims.

Hi all, this is what I found originally on Loftus:

Louisa Ellen Loftus

Births Mar 1928
Loftus Louisa E Keys Bethnal G. 1c 154
Address 32 Grendon House, Shore Place, Hackney. Tube Shelter accident.
Parents:
Marriage Mar 1919

Keys Elizabeth S A Loftus Bethnal Green
1c 258

Loftus James Keys Bethnal G.
1c 258



James b 2Q 1897 Lambeth

Elizabeth b 1Q 1896 St George Hanover Sq

Possible sibling: Births Sep 1919
Loftus George Keys Bethnal G. 1c144

Births Sep 1930
Loftus John S Keys Bethnal G. 1c117 also in tube accident died same day in hospital

GR member Gerald has PMed me (must have been via this thread?):

"Hi If Rose leggett was maiden name gable i am probably a relative as her father and my grandfather where brothers."

I've suggested that he get in touch with Anna, and send Victoria a message via the link in Search Trees for Rose Gable 1911. (She doesn't seem to be in his tree, but I'll pass info to Victoria for contacting him.)

ROSE COLLETT nee FROGGETT

Contact from Steve
"
Hi there

Rose was my Gt-Grandmother - I am Charles' Grandson.
Of her children only George and Iris are still alive.

I have a different spelling of Rose's surname, which may be why I wasn't getting anywhere with tracking down her side of the family tree but will check with relatives and get back to you.

I'll also check whether George and Iris wish to be contacted.

Kind regards

Steven"

ROSE MAUD LEGGETT NEE GABLE
Contact from Gerald

hello. Thomas Gable was my Grandfathers Brother. His was killed in action 15 Aug 1915 at Galipoli Turkey . His parents where Nathanial and Isabella Gable maiden name Orange . The Orange family link back to france. My mother evelyn gable was in bethanal green at the time of the tube disaster. Her brother was in the ARP air raid service . Regards Gerald

I had an email from Gerald re.Rose Maud Leggett nee Gable and confirmed that she was killed along with her husband and son. His grandfather was Rose's uncle.

I also told him to contact Vicci to gain access to the tree.

I'm doing my best to collate everything now so I don't have to do it all in one go again (that'll teach me for not making the time before...but, sadly, shiftwork doesn't always allow the luxury of time)

Anyway, I'm up and running now...I think. Any advice gratefully received though, thanks.

Vicci, I'm not sure if I have the most up-to-date spreadsheet, can you send me the link again please?

All the best,
Anna

Anna - I'd given Gerald your email address. Glad he got in touch.

Please clarify as you say he never marries but then give a marriage

"Hawley (name as at CWGC) born 1878 Mile End parents William Hawley c1848 Emma Ann Hammerton c 1851 siblings Mahala Sarah A Hawley, Mile End, 1876 William Henry Hawley, Mile End, 1880 (may be more, will report if so) last address per CWGC: 143 Antill Road, Roman Road apparently never married LEONARD JOSEPH HAWLEY Sep 1878 Hawley Leonard Joseph H Mile End 1c 571 of 143 Antill Road, Roman Road. in Tube Shelter accident. BETHNAL GREEN, METROPOLITAN BOROUGH Marriage: Marriages Sep 1912 Bowman Florence L Hawley Wandsworth 1d 1563 HAWLEY Leonard J Bowman Wandsworth 1d 1563 Children: Mar 1913 Hawley Alice L F Bowman Wandsworth 1d 1378 Dec 1916 Hawley Victor S Bowman Docking 4b 409 I can find nothing on any tree for Leonard. I have found some details on his son. Victor S Hawley married Lilian E Parker, Wandsworth, 1d 1224, 2Q 1942. Sadly no tree found. Tracey x "

Is he married or is this a maybe?

Marriages Sep 1912 (>99%)
Bowman Florence L Hawley Wandsworth 1d 1563
HAWLEY Leonard J Bowman Wandsworth 1d 1563

Thanks

Had a message about Rosina (Wheeler) Papworth from Diana who may have her in her Papworth family. Have passed the contact link on to Victoria and told Diana how to contact BGTD1943 by searching trees, and given her Anna's email address.

I think people are PMing me when they see the list on page 1. Janice was the one who researched Papworth, but would not have contacted Diana since she doesn't have Rosina or her husband Henry Papworth in her tree.

Did you see MISSING (BBC 9.15 am this morning).

It featured a lady who was the youngest survivor (aged 6 months). Her mother died in the incident. She was bought up by a step mother but didn't know this until she was about 20 although she had been told by another child when she was 10 but her father denied it.

She has now found a lady of 91 years young who knew her mother and has been able to tell her of their times together.

Thank you, interesting -- and it's available here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00jd4s1

-- series 2, Episode 15, 7 days left to watch.

... but it's telling me "This content doesn't seem to be working. Try again later."


In searching for it, I did read this first-person account from one of the memorial organizers who was a child at the time and one of the survivors; how sad it was.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/7273488.stm

Missing children

It was only as incomplete families returned home that the Bethnal Green community discovered what had happened, he says.

"We all walked home and then people didn't arrive. There was a little girl who my mother looked after. She didn't turn up, so I went to school without her.

"When I got to school, there were children missing. In one case, there was seven went to the Tube and only one came up, the whole family was gone."

Seems to be OK now EvieBeavie.

The lady who was saved is now known as Margaret McKay (think that is how it is spelt)

Hi all, This is the reply i just got from Felicity:

Dear Deborah. Wow! Yes it is the same Mary Morris. (Ivy Hewitt) who died in the Bethnal Green Tube disaster in 1943. She was the first wife of my husband's father, Leslie George Hewitt. I don't think they had any children, but I can't be sure. She was about 27 when she died. I think her parents were Frederick J Morris and Margaret M Murphy who married in Bethnal Green in 1913. Thank you for getting in touch. I will certainly visit the websites etc. Best wishes from Felicity :~)

regards Deborah

Anyone see todays BBC Missing programme?
Alf Morris and Margaret Ridgeway were young children at the time.Alf is looking for family of a Mrs Chumley(?right spelling) she pulled him out.

Margaret Ridgeway is the Margaret McKay who appeared on Missing on 3rd April.

On today's programme Alf visited a church local to the Tube Station to look a Parish Registers for Baptisms of possible Chumleys.

Alf Moriss's story:

http://www.tower-bridge.org.uk/bgreen.htm

Hiya Meg! Unfortunately I can't quite answer your question. I *think* the list near the top of page 1 is up to date, but I'm not positive.

Victoria has a spreadsheet with all the outcomes on it so you could send her your email address and get her to send you a copy. It being Easter weekend, give her a couple of days, I'd say.

Oh, heh. I just checked back to the list and I was the one doing Leonard Hawley. So I assume nobody else tried.

Yes - Ancestry trees were used by a couple of people, and I was saying that would be a next good line of attack.

So I will pass Leonard Hawley to you with my compliments!

And if you want to try any of the "no matches in trees" people against Ancestry trees, that would be excellent. You'd be starting that next line of attack.

What happened, Madmeg?

I submitted the above reply a little while ago, and wandered off to another page, and only just noticed that I'd got an error message. So I submitted it again, and when it did post this time, I saw that your post had been deleted.